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Out of about 2 million of these trucks with the pano roof since 2015 till 2018 you find less then 200 posts.....thats less then .01% fail rate. so if you want to trust 200 posts over 2 million made then thats fine. I love my pano I will get one on every truck. if I get a bad one well it happens. doesnt mean i dont want another. Air planes crash but i will still fly.
I admit to initially being concerned about my pano roof but my truck been completely dry inside and it's worked flawless for the past year. Just going to keep a close eye and make sure the roof drains are open and it's properly lubricated. BTW I also change my oil and perform other maintance items to make sure my truck is in good working condition. It's no big deal and as you point out there are probably millions of these roofs out there. If pano roofs were that big of a problem Ford would have most likely been forced to make engineering changes because of a huge warranty expense.
So far I'm happy with my pano roof and will get it in the next F150 I purchase............
Out of about 2 million of these trucks with the pano roof since 2015 till 2018 you find less then 200 posts.....thats less then .01% fail rate.
Ask yourself, are there 2 million F150 members here?
Nor do all F150s have pano roofs which there in itself makes your phony baloney unscientific failure rate even higher.
I'd be willing to bet there is a way more higher failure rate than 200/2,000,000.Your numbers not mine.
After reading the pano roof failures and fixes, the root cause of many appears to be a shoddy design which uses easily broken plastic parts.
And needs to be lubed to get some to work smoother.
LOL so you wont buy a pano roof because theres the occasional leak thread but you bought an f150 when theres even more problematic threads about this truck? Sounds logical
Not so logical!
I bought my truck well before i even knew about this website yet alone became a member here.
If i would of been here before i bought a truck i would of made sure i got a trim with the 4A package or who knows might of held my nose and even ended up with a RAM.
And yes it woulda been a RAM without a sun roof.
I've got a sunroof on one of my Jeeps which so far has had no issues. But after a good soaking rain or after washing it i constantly look for leaks.
IMO and IMO only, for the extra money they want for these things and possible potential issues with them, they can keep these things.
To those who like them more power to you, have fun with them while they're still working and don't leak.
My 2015 had one minor issue this past spring with a leak, which was really just the drain hose that popped out and took me 10 minutes to fix. Other than that no problems. I also park under a tree at work where I end up with tons of needles inside my truck when the wind hits and my glass is vented. But nothing in the tray or rails.
Ask yourself, are there 2 million F150 members here?
Nor do all F150s have pano roofs which there in itself makes your phony baloney unscientific failure rate even higher.
I'd be willing to bet there is a way more higher failure rate than 200/2,000,000.Your numbers not mine.
After reading the pano roof failures and fixes, the root cause of many appears to be a shoddy design which uses easily broken plastic parts.
And needs to be lubed to get some to work smoother.
Not so logical!
I bought my truck well before i even knew about this website yet alone became a member here.
If i would of been here before i bought a truck i would of made sure i got a trim with the 4A package or who knows might of held my nose and even ended up with a RAM.
And yes it woulda been a RAM without a sun roof.
I've got a sunroof on one of my Jeeps which so far has had no issues. But after a good soaking rain or after washing it i constantly look for leaks.
IMO and IMO only, for the extra money they want for these things and possible potential issues with them, they can keep these things.
To those who like them more power to you, have fun with them while they're still working and don't leak.
Ask yourself this how many people only come to a forum to complain. which in turn makes issues look to be greater significance then they really are. most posts here are because someone found this forum just to complain.
I came here to look for answers to some questions. And help out with any questions I might have answers to. I have had a drain issue with mine due to the dealer knocking it loose when they fixed my sat radio antenna. didnt find it till I had a waterfall out of my passenger grab handle during Hurricane harvey.
Took 10 m ins to fix it and a zip tie to make sure it didnt happen again. then i did the other 3 corners. Theres a wealth of information here but take everything bad with a grain of salt. Because" OMG my 80K limited has guess what the same parts as a 20K XL reg cab as the base its all sitting on". I honestly love that one.
of course more can go wrong when you keep adding to it. you hear of very little going wrong with the base trucks. And if Ford had so many issues across the entire line up they sure as hell wouldnt be the #1 selling truck for 41 years straight. so go suck a Dodge and remember they wont even put their name on their trucks anymore. they just call them by ram....
I have the pano roof in my 2018 Lariat and absolutely love it. It was a requirement when I was scanning the dealer lots. I read though all of the horror stories that are posted here, so I know that there are potential issues down the road. My truck is parked in our garage at night and I park in a covered structure for work, so that should help prolong the life and delay any issues - hopefully! The last vehicle I owned with a moon roof was a 2004 Grand Prix that I got rid of back in 2007 and I loved having it. My wife's 2012 Edge has the vista roof and I was always jealous riding in her car. So happy to have a moon roof again!
One thing I suggest is putting a lubricant on the seals. There are a couple of threads here that talk about it - it just keeps the seals from sticking to each other and causing the pop that's heard just before the cracking of the plastic arms.
I bought the Honda Shin-etsu Grease when mine was in the shop thinking I would get ahead of the game. Went to open it to put the grease on and POP!!! Had to go back in. Haven't been brave enough to open it since. :-(
I have the pano roof in my 2018 Lariat and absolutely love it. It was a requirement when I was scanning the dealer lots. I read though all of the horror stories that are posted here, so I know that there are potential issues down the road. My truck is parked in our garage at night and I park in a covered structure for work, so that should help prolong the life and delay any issues - hopefully! The last vehicle I owned with a moon roof was a 2004 Grand Prix that I got rid of back in 2007 and I loved having it. My wife's 2012 Edge has the vista roof and I was always jealous riding in her car. So happy to have a moon roof again!
Not sure it helps parking in a garage. I think there was a poll about this last year. It really just seems to be a crapshoot. I've never parked in a garage, always outdoors. Hot summers and freezing cold Canadian winters, but I've never had a problem in 3+ years other than my drain hose popping out. Moves fine, no rattling other than washboard roads, and no sticking. But I do grease the rear edge of the sliding window.
I'm thinking I better open the moonroof on my new truck, test the drains, and lube whatever needs to be lubed. But my questions are:
1. Does anything need to be lubed on a 1.5-month old truck (since it was built)? Truck will always be garaged, by the way.
2. What exactly has to be lubed, and where?
3. Which exact kind of product do we need to use? Lithium grease? Silicon spray? I have a spray can of some lubricant BMW uses for rubber seals for years, but don't know exactly what kind of product it is. I could use it on the moonroof rubber seals that I can reach. If the moonroof slides open above the rear glass, I should be able to reach all 4 sides entirely. Thanks.
Ask yourself this how many people only come to a forum to complain. which in turn makes issues look to be greater significance then they really are. most posts here are because someone found this forum just to complain.
I came here to look for answers to some questions. And help out with any questions I might have answers to. I have had a drain issue with mine due to the dealer knocking it loose when they fixed my sat radio antenna. didnt find it till I had a waterfall out of my passenger grab handle during Hurricane harvey.
Took 10 m ins to fix it and a zip tie to make sure it didnt happen again. then i did the other 3 corners. Theres a wealth of information here but take everything bad with a grain of salt. Because" OMG my 80K limited has guess what the same parts as a 20K XL reg cab as the base its all sitting on". I honestly love that one.
of course more can go wrong when you keep adding to it. you hear of very little going wrong with the base trucks. And if Ford had so many issues across the entire line up they sure as hell wouldnt be the #1 selling truck for 41 years straight. so go suck a Dodge and remember they wont even put their name on their trucks anymore. they just call them by ram....
Don't know if you 'started' a thread on your leaking pano roof but i'll assume for the sake of my argument you didn't.Too lazy to do a search.
Assuming that you or anyone else here with a similar leaking drain hose didn't 'start a thread' or post in a thread, that would of been one piece of pano roof defect data missing according to your phony balony failure rate method.
Even though your issue might of not been a factory defect, it was none the less a defect which a non-mechanically inclined person would of taken back for more warranty work and counted in Ford's warranty data..
Ask yourself why are those drain hoses so easy to fail in one way or another? I've seen several posts here on pano roof drain hoses.
As i mentioned in other threads i've also had 3 minor defect issues which were properly and promptly fixed under warranty.
I mentioned them in threads but far as i can remember i think i might of STARTED A THREAD on one those issues.
The other two issues according to your method of calculating defect rates did not include that defect data.
Moral of the story, some people here do not START THREADS or even post in threads for which they consider minor defects or that they can easily fix themselves..
The real world defect/failure rates are in a lock box hidden somewhere in Ford's Corporate Warranty Dept.
Don't know if you 'started' a thread on your leaking pano roof but i'll assume for the sake of my argument you didn't.Too lazy to do a search.
Assuming that you or anyone else here with a similar leaking drain hose didn't 'start a thread' or post in a thread, that would of been one piece of pano roof defect data missing according to your phony balony failure rate method.
Even though your issue might of not been a factory defect, it was none the less a defect which a non-mechanically inclined person would of taken back for more warranty work and counted in Ford's warranty data..
Ask yourself why are those drain hoses so easy to fail in one way or another? I've seen several posts here on pano roof drain hoses.
As i mentioned in other threads i've also had 3 minor defect issues which were properly and promptly fixed under warranty.
I mentioned them in threads but far as i can remember i think i might of STARTED A THREAD on one those issues.
The other two issues according to your method of calculating defect rates did not include that defect data.
Moral of the story, some people here do not START THREADS or even post in threads for which they consider minor defects or that they can easily fix themselves..
The real world defect/failure rates are in a lock box hidden somewhere in Ford's Corporate Warranty Dept.
why would i start a thread....the moment I saw the water coming in I knew exactly where it was coming from. And it wasnt a defect it was sloppy *** dealer mechanics that knocked it loose. I would have rather installed the replacement sat antenna myself as I dont trust a damn soul other then myself to do work competently.
If its made by humans its inherently gonna fail.
07-16-2018, 03:09 PM
