No Eco-boost offered for F-250 SD
09-06-2016, 08:01 PM
#41
09-06-2016, 08:03 PM
#42
The fact remains that Ford will leave the NA 6.2L V-8 in place for the F-250 instead of the new 3.5L ecoboost with more torque, as far as gas alternatives for heavy duty work.
I think Ford still has it's fingers crossed with ecoboost reliability and isn't going to push it.
The gas mileage reason doesn't really make sense to me because under a load, both engines will be consuming more fuel. And unloaded, the eco-boost will be much more fuel efficient, and that will probably be the majority of the time.
The "silly little v-6" comment doesn't have me convinced either because it's making 470 lb.-ft. of torque and obviously built to handle it. 430 lb.-ft. torque is what the currently offered gas F-250 engine is making.
I think Ford knows that the F-250 NA V-8, although not making as much torque, is going to be more reliable doing real heavy duty work than any ecoboost.
I think when we see Ford offer the ecoboost for hard working F-250 applications, we will know the eco-boost is trusted.
I think Ford still has it's fingers crossed with ecoboost reliability and isn't going to push it.
The gas mileage reason doesn't really make sense to me because under a load, both engines will be consuming more fuel. And unloaded, the eco-boost will be much more fuel efficient, and that will probably be the majority of the time.
The "silly little v-6" comment doesn't have me convinced either because it's making 470 lb.-ft. of torque and obviously built to handle it. 430 lb.-ft. torque is what the currently offered gas F-250 engine is making.
I think Ford knows that the F-250 NA V-8, although not making as much torque, is going to be more reliable doing real heavy duty work than any ecoboost.
I think when we see Ford offer the ecoboost for hard working F-250 applications, we will know the eco-boost is trusted.
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Growinupmx (11-22-2016)
09-08-2016, 08:12 AM
#43
I still stand by the fact that the 3.5 would be in boost almost all the time in a SD, the new aluminum SD is only about 200lb lighter than the 16s. So the truck weighs 6800(crew cab 4x4 f250)plus pounds which is like running around with a 1200 to 1500 pound payload in a 150, before you add any payload to the 250. The eco part of an ecoboost would be out the window, the engine would be a very bad choice for the 250.
Imagine running around at full GVWR of 10k, its like dragging a 4000lb trailer behind a 150 other than wind drag which if its like many SD trucks, the load would be on ladder racks or utility bodies so drag would be bad too. No thanks give me the 6.2. My 5.0 gets 11 to 12 towing 8k plus at 70mph. Most ecos pulling that are under 10. No reason in a SD to expect any better from the eco. Boost adds power and power costs fuel. Turbos do their job, but there is no free lunch.
Imagine running around at full GVWR of 10k, its like dragging a 4000lb trailer behind a 150 other than wind drag which if its like many SD trucks, the load would be on ladder racks or utility bodies so drag would be bad too. No thanks give me the 6.2. My 5.0 gets 11 to 12 towing 8k plus at 70mph. Most ecos pulling that are under 10. No reason in a SD to expect any better from the eco. Boost adds power and power costs fuel. Turbos do their job, but there is no free lunch.
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09-08-2016, 08:39 AM
#44
I still stand by the fact that the 3.5 would be in boost almost all the time in a SD, the new aluminum SD is only about 200lb lighter than the 16s. So the truck weighs 6800(crew cab 4x4 f250)plus pounds which is like running around with a 1200 to 1500 pound payload in a 150, before you add any payload to the 250. The eco part of an ecoboost would be out the window, the engine would be a very bad choice for the 250.
Imagine running around at full GVWR of 10k, its like dragging a 4000lb trailer behind a 150 other than wind drag which if its like many SD trucks, the load would be on ladder racks or utility bodies so drag would be bad too. No thanks give me the 6.2. My 5.0 gets 11 to 12 towing 8k plus at 70mph. Most ecos pulling that are under 10. No reason in a SD to expect any better from the eco. Boost adds power and power costs fuel. Turbos do their job, but there is no free lunch.
Imagine running around at full GVWR of 10k, its like dragging a 4000lb trailer behind a 150 other than wind drag which if its like many SD trucks, the load would be on ladder racks or utility bodies so drag would be bad too. No thanks give me the 6.2. My 5.0 gets 11 to 12 towing 8k plus at 70mph. Most ecos pulling that are under 10. No reason in a SD to expect any better from the eco. Boost adds power and power costs fuel. Turbos do their job, but there is no free lunch.