No Eco-boost offered for F-250 SD
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No Eco-boost offered for F-250 SD
The new 2017 F-250 offers a 6.2L V-8 that only makes 430 lb.-ft. of torque. The new 3.5L Eco-boost is making much more torque 470 lb.-ft. of torque. Torque is what is needed for heavy lifting type work that super duty does so why no 3.5L offered?
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If the 150 and Super duty share a motor the Super duty offering always has less power since they detune the motor for longevity. Personally as great as I think the ecoboost platform is for the F150 I don't think they've proven themselves enough yet for the Super duties longevity wise. Maybe I'm wrong.
Also you have to realize that an ecoboost in the super duties would hurt F150 sales and Powerstroke sales. A lot of people would really be rethinking if they need the diesel and more people would be tempted to go into the Super Duties.
Also I don't think the Super Duties are regulated as strictly with MPGs, so not as bit of a rush to increase fuel economy.
Also you have to realize that an ecoboost in the super duties would hurt F150 sales and Powerstroke sales. A lot of people would really be rethinking if they need the diesel and more people would be tempted to go into the Super Duties.
Also I don't think the Super Duties are regulated as strictly with MPGs, so not as bit of a rush to increase fuel economy.
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Rupert (09-05-2016)
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The duty cycle of the SD trucks is much heavier. The eco is a great F150 powerplant, but with the much heavier super duty truck and the work they are used for, the eco would be in boost all the time. This would not be condusive to long life or reasonable fuel economy.
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Rupert (09-05-2016)
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Rupert (09-05-2016)
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GM does the same thing. They have a great 6.2 in the 1500 but use an old 6.0 iron block in the HDs for the same reason stated above.
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Rupert (09-05-2016)
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You described the advantage of diesel over gasoline. There is no evidence to support your claim that the 3.5tt is any less reliable in those situations as the mod v8 engine but judging by your handle you won't agree.
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After going to a 2016 F150 after driving Super Duties since 1999, over 10 of them, I was done with diesels for a while. If I could have bought a Super Duty with a gas mill like a large EcoBoost, I would not have hesitated. The EcoBoost 3.5L is tried and true. Ford beat the snot out of it before it's release. We've all seen the videos. 75% of the HD trucks on the road are pavement queens that are lucky to see a 6,000 load ever. I think Ford could double Super Duty sales if they'd give it an economy mill like an EcoBoost... But market it that way. Guys who haul and need the diesel will buy the diesel, or the 6.2L. The guys who need the weight capacity for a heavy travel trailer, but use it as a daily driver, will buy the EcoBoost.
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Jus Cruisin (09-05-2016)
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There is no evidence to support the claim that the most reliable platform on the market is more reliable than a small twin turbo engine that needs to get into boost to make the power needed for HD work?