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repaint will never match the factory finish, its almost impossible to get the same look and same color, it'll be close but a perfectionist will always find flaws .. I've counted seven different flaws in the finish of my 2015 f150, mostly dust in the clear but as much as it irritates me I'm just going to leave it as is. I had a door repainted on my 2011 f150 and the tuxedo black didn't have the pop in the metallic as the original did and the clear coat didn't have as much orange peel as the factory paint, it was a better finish than the factory but it was obvious it had been repainted
Don't take this the wrong way- but you need to find an AB shop that actually knows how to paint.
Wadingdog, I checked my truck this morning after seeing your posts, and mine has all of the same problems as yours to a T. I will probably just live with it though.
Originally Posted by wadingdog
The wavy is normal and expected as Halfshell1 mentioned. The process for addressing these items is also normal. The dealer is being honest it seems and doing the right thing. I have a great dealer. I picked one off the lot that has worst paint issues. I have overspray between the driver and pass doors on both sides. On one side front and rear doors have a blemish where a paint glop dried between the mis-aligned doors and broke apart later. Also, on both sides inside the door jambs at the bottom. Its not entirely painted. As it curves under the truck where there is is just overspray. Where the molding is and it meets the wavy part its not painted at all and . There are also two bubbles in the roof and a exposed metal scratch in the bed ( Solvable with bed spray ).
The issue / extremity with mine is all four doors will need to come off to repair / repaint the door jambs underpart and roof ( They are mis-aligned as well ). Getting it back to factory finish is going to be nearly impossible.
Mine has been at the dealer for 13 days. 10 biz days. We are still waiting for a response from Ford to see if they want it back and or develop an action plan. If Ford does not take it back and the dealer does not get me out of it with a replacement there will need to be repair to my satisfaction / acceptance, price adjustment and lifetime warranty
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With my bubbles the dealer is concerned it will crack and peal. They really want to get it all fixed. They also think it should not have left the factory and is completely unacceptable. They have mentioned getting me out of it but that is talk until its backed up.
I agree sometimes messing with it is worse than leaving it. I would be worried about the pealing and want to get it fixed ( If it bothers you ). If not, I would document and ask for a lifetime ownership warranty on the paint.
Someone will have to explain to me how fixing it will make it worse. I've repainted numerous Ford vehicles, I'd guess close to 75 under warranty in the last year alone. And it never made anything worse.
While I agree, as you know it depends on the painter and his prepper and let's be honest, not all Ford body shops are on the same page as far as quality goes though most are.
As for the OP, I'd at least have it documented. That said, if it were mine, it would be going in for a re-paint.
Ford should be embarrassed with all these misaligned panels. It reminds me of the 50's, 60's and 70's when quality sucked so bad at the Big 3, the panels were loaded with shims so they would somewhat align.
While I agree, as you know it depends on the painter and his prepper and let's be honest, not all Ford body shops are on the same page as far as quality goes though most are.
As for the OP, I'd at least have it documented. That said, if it were mine, it would be going in for a re-paint.
Ford should be embarrassed with all these misaligned panels. It reminds me of the 50's, 60's and 70's when quality sucked so bad at the Big 3, the panels were loaded with shims so they would somewhat align.
Oh I agree not all shops are created equal. I just don't see how having the defect removed makes it worse in some people eyes. Ijust think its funny how people don't want to fix it, because the finish won't be "factory quality, " when the exact thing that's being complained about, is the quality of the factory finish.
I guess it's mainly because I'm commission. So if a customer is not beyond satisfied with my work, and I have to redo it, I redo it for free. I also have my boss breathing down my neck for the wasted materials. So I'm very motivated to make the job as good as, or better than factory, 1.because I like being quality oriented, and 2. I make more money the more quality I am.
Oh I agree not all shops are created equal. I just don't see how having the defect removed makes it worse in some people eyes. Ijust think its funny how people don't want to fix it, because the finish won't be "factory quality, " when the exact thing that's being complained about, is the quality of the factory finish.
I guess it's mainly because I'm commission. So if a customer is not beyond satisfied with my work, and I have to redo it, I redo it for free. I also have my boss breathing down my neck for the wasted materials. So I'm very motivated to make the job as good as, or better than factory, 1.because I like being quality oriented, and 2. I make more money the more quality I am.
I agree with you. Have it fixed now because the paint warranty sucks and expires soon.
Someone posted above have a lot lizard (the guys fixing door dings under tents behind the dealer) do it and there's no way in hell I would do that. Those guys gurantee their work usually until they pull off the lot and they blend clear in the middle of panel. That's no bueno long term.
Oh I agree not all shops are created equal. I just don't see how having the defect removed makes it worse in some people eyes. Ijust think its funny how people don't want to fix it, because the finish won't be "factory quality, " when the exact thing that's being complained about, is the quality of the factory finish.
I guess it's mainly because I'm commission. So if a customer is not beyond satisfied with my work, and I have to redo it, I redo it for free. I also have my boss breathing down my neck for the wasted materials. So I'm very motivated to make the job as good as, or better than factory, 1.because I like being quality oriented, and 2. I make more money the more quality I am.
And my comment that one should scrutinize the work prior was to eliminate the few that don't do good work from screwing up your vehicle, like they did mine. Mine was a case of listen to yourself!- Case in point, I had a nearly year long ordeal in having finish bubbles repaired on my OE, clearcoated, alloy wheels on a 2010 Toyo Tundra. After the dealer had their "gypsy wheel guy" redo them twice & both times looked like a poor rattlecan job, I gave up on them! They said , "he does all our wheels on warranty & used lot cars, he will sandblast the wheels , sand,prep and paint them to original finish". They looked like crapp! Dry sprayed, uneven paint thickness, clear coat missing entirely on many areas, craters where the bubbles had been instead of smoothly sanded, even surface-plain old bad work!!! He used mobile trailer to haul his equipment & their building. Why a major size dealer in close proximity to Georgetown Camry plant, thus a "toyota area of popularity" there, yet use of a substandard contractor to do that work?
Bottom line is that if you have a critical area that shows on your vehicle, then either you or whomever is a knowing critic, look at the work before they get your job.
By far the majority of dealer shops or busy private AB shops are going to do it better than most factory finishes. Anyone that knows AB work could take you on a tour of a new car lot and show various imperfections in factory paint work. Fact is that one of the challenges of aftermarket paint work is to replicate the mfg's orange peel, etc. in their repair job so all matches well to the customers eye.
Oh I agree not all shops are created equal. I just don't see how having the defect removed makes it worse in some people eyes. Ijust think its funny how people don't want to fix it, because the finish won't be "factory quality, " when the exact thing that's being complained about, is the quality of the factory finish.
I guess it's mainly because I'm commission. So if a customer is not beyond satisfied with my work, and I have to redo it, I redo it for free. I also have my boss breathing down my neck for the wasted materials. So I'm very motivated to make the job as good as, or better than factory, 1.because I like being quality oriented, and 2. I make more money the more quality I am.
what do you think of this paint defect? do you think it can be easily removed?
04-15-2015, 07:26 AM
