Does a max tow equipped truck have a higher payload than a non max tow with a 3.5, 3.55 e-look, 9.75 axle? It would appear from the towing charts that the springs are upgraded (gcwr), but nothing specifically states that the springs are different.

Thanks

 

All else being equal, probably not as there are things that would add weight and reduce payload, but probably not by much.

 

The GVWR does not change with or without Max Tow.

 

Nope, only HDPP will increase the payload.

That's a simplified answer, as engine/cab/bed/drivetrain can also affect GVWR, but only from 6,500lbs to 7,050lbs. HDPP bumps that up to 7,850 IIRC.

-John

 

Trying to understand how max tow gives a higher tow rating with a slightly different different hitch. Tow charts show max tow trucks with a higher gcwr. Maybe the gcwr is only higher because of the tow rating?

 

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My 2019 XLT '4x4' SCrew w/Max Tow has a 7,000 lb. GVWR, and a 1,804 lb. Payload Sticker. The Max Tow differences are reportedly these:

- 3.55 or 3.73 E-Locker
- 4/7 Pin Harness
- 36 Gallon Fuel Tank
- Trans Cooler
- Upgraded Class IV Hitch Receiver (That's tied in to the rear bumper)
- Upgraded rear bumper (to accommodate for the hitch)
- Pro Trailer Backup Assist
- Smart Trailer Connect
- Trailer Brake Controller
- Upgraded Stabilizer Bar

Also required is the 3.5L Ecoboost w/ 10-speed transmission. (when ordering new)
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'Fantasy' numbers stickered on my Class IV Receiver [only with a WDH] are 13,200 lbs Towing. 1,320 lbs. Tongue Weight. I tow a ~7,500 lb. [wet] Camping Trailer.
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Max Tow is a package that gives the truck the maximum towing Ability. Key word Ability. You are still limited by the payload. In Ford speak that means "Properly Equipped". IOW it equips the truck with all the items required in their column. It does not raise GVWR or increase payload.

Another item to note, SAE J2807 is the guide used to rate towing ability. It uses set standards, one of which is 10% tongue weight on the receiver. That means tongue weight plus the hitch weight. The maximum amount of weight you can apply to the Max Tow receiver is 1320 pounds, so @ 10% that is a 13,200 trailer.

IOW it does NOT need to be an HDPP to tow 13,200 pounds of trailer. You just need to have 1320 pounds of available payload, that is the truck with the driver and full tank of fuel subtracted from GVWR, as long as the balance is =/> to 1320, it can tow it. So my Platinum with 1557 pounds of payload is quite capable of towing to the max. This is how Ford gets away with the best in class towing announcement, because technically, they are right, in reality though, not so. (for the record, according to the Ford guide, mine being a SB is limited to 12,700 pounds)

Now if I were to tow a trailer that is balanced with the load directly over the axles, like a horse trailer, that didn't require a WDH, like a horse trailer, then I can easily tow 12,700 pounds. But if I were towing a travel trailer with 13% tongue weight, that limits the truck, including the HDPP, to a trailer that weighs no more than 9400 pounds.

Something to think about.

 

Something else to keep in mind is that you need to check against GCWR as well.

Your truck has a GCWR of 18,200#. Subtract that 12,700# and you're left with 5500#. Assuming your GVWR is 7050#, with a payload of 1557, your truck weighed 5493# before you put anything in or on it. That leaves you 7# for the hitch and yourself. Good luck. (That ones makes less sense than mine, at least I get 118#.

 

6750 for RWD. Mine comes out to 17,900 GCWR. it is a 1750 pound difference when adding both GVWR together. In reality though, considering @ 13% the max trailer weight is 9400 pounds, 6750 + 9400 = 16,150. Now 17,900 - 16,150 comes out to

Are you ready for this

Hold onto your hats


1750 pounds.

Holy Crap, there's the logic!

 

No it doesn't.

Starting with the 18 the Max Tow had...
Sticking to the Screw 157 w/ 20" Wheels

Computer Selected Max Springs (May just be more arch).
Higher RAWR (3850 vs 4050).
Slower front steering
Heavier Frame
Reinforced Bumper/Hitch
Different Rear Axle Shafts (Housing and Bearings are the Same)
Of course it also includes the 3.55 Elocker,, 36 gal fuel tank and ITBC you can get atand alone).
Now how much of that carried over to the Non-Max Tows I don't know.

Now here is another for you....
2018 Screw XL 100A 4x4 3.5EB
$95 53B Hitch Package - 7000 lb Towing.
$995 53A HD Towing - 10700 lb Towing
The difference? The 53A has a solid instead of hollow front stabilizer bar and $900.