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Old May 1, 2016 | 09:41 PM
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So I HAD a 2010 F150 FX4 that I absolutely LOVED. Unfortunately it started costing me around $400 a month in gas on my 70 mile round trip drive for work every day and I couldn't afford it on top of my truck payment and everything else. Needless to say I traded it in for a 2014 VW Passatt TDI. Now the TDI models are about to be able to be turned back to VW and RUMOR has it they are giving a $5,000 compensation.

Was out looking at trucks today so I could do it hassle free without dealer's trying to get me to buy. Found this truck today that is a lot like my old one, minus the V8 gas guzzling motor.

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Was curious, what kind of deal should I expect to get on a truck like this? Dad had always told me take the sticker price, minus your trade in/down payment and then subtract 12-18% and that should get me close to the price range. With that math on this truck using 12% it brings me to about $36,968.80. Is that good, bad?
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Old May 1, 2016 | 10:04 PM
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So I HAD a 2010 F150 FX4 that I absolutely LOVED. Unfortunately it started costing me around $400 a month in gas on my 70 mile round trip drive for work every day and I couldn't afford it on top of my truck payment and everything else. Needless to say I traded it in for a 2014 VW Passatt TDI. Now the TDI models are about to be able to be turned back to VW and RUMOR has it they are giving a $5,000 compensation.

Was out looking at trucks today so I could do it hassle free without dealer's trying to get me to buy. Found this truck today that is a lot like my old one, minus the V8 gas guzzling motor.


http://www.vivaford.com/new/Ford/201...archDepth=5:16

Was curious, what kind of deal should I expect to get on a truck like this? Dad had always told me take the sticker price, minus your trade in/down payment and then subtract 12-18% and that should get me close to the price range. With that math on this truck using 12% it brings me to about $36,968.80. Is that good, bad?
No offense to your dad but that makes zero sense. The going rate is about 20% off an xlt. That's the volume leader basic truck so it had the best discount.
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Old May 1, 2016 | 10:06 PM
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He just used that as a rule of thumb on all vehicles, didnt say it was exact. But 20% sounds even better.
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Old May 1, 2016 | 10:07 PM
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What sort of MPG were you getting with the 2010? Have you done some research on what the actual MPG on the truck you're interested in? I know what the sticker says, but those fib.

I don't know how buy backs work, but if you were upside down on the truck and added that to the VW loan you should plan on still having some sort of remaining balance. That is assuming you don't have equity in the VW and aren't compensated more than the buy back.

It looks like they've already discounted it to just shy of 43k with rebates. You could check on Fords website and see if they are leaving any off, or do a search for buying new with rebates. I don't buy new anymore so others will guide you better in this area. Don't forget you have fees; tax, tag, license, doc etc. Plan on adding 1k (not sure what they are in your area though.)
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Old May 1, 2016 | 10:25 PM
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the 2010 was getting about 17.5. The VW now at almost 39K miles is getting 42 MPG. Im also looking at a Toyota Tacoma TSS. Both I know are great trucks, I just really miss my Ford.

I had to borrow about 4K to finish paying off the truck, hopefully that doesnt bite me in the *** either like you mentioned, thanks for that heads up!
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Old May 1, 2016 | 10:29 PM
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the 2010 was getting about 17.5. The VW now at almost 39K miles is getting 42 MPG. Im also looking at a Toyota Tacoma TSS. Both I know are great trucks, I just really miss my Ford.

I had to borrow about 4K to finish paying off the truck, hopefully that doesnt bite me in the *** either like you mentioned, thanks for that heads up!
lucky if u get 20 mpg depending on driving habits and driving routes (highway / in town)
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Yep. Things have improved since 2010 but not drastically compared to what you're coming from.
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Old May 1, 2016 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kutch98
He just used that as a rule of thumb on all vehicles, didnt say it was exact. But 20% sounds even better.
Use websites like edmunds.com to find out invoice price and start there. The dealer keeps a 3% (of MSRP) hold back that you can negotiate for too.
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Old May 1, 2016 | 11:57 PM
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You will be in the position, if not worst due to being upside down, as you were with your 2010. Your payments will probably be higher then on your 2010 and the gas mileage on the new truck will be less then half of what you get with your VW.


If I were you I take the money from VW and either put it in the bank and keep the VW and pay it off.....then buy a truck. that would be the smart way.
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Old May 2, 2016 | 01:05 AM
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As of now the wife and I plan to bank the money they give us and save the car payment for another 6 months. I can use her car, my Harley and bicycle to get around.

I figured the MPG wouldn't be drastically better, but I also don't have a 70 mile round trip drive anymore, nor do I plan to be somewhere I would have to do that.

When is the best time to buy? I kinda thought Octoberish might be good when the new model year trucks are rolling in. Figured there would be good deals then on both previous and new year models.
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