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Old May 4, 2020 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by gopherman
If it would've been awhile back I would've said 5.0, hands down. Now, I'd tell you the 3.5 NA that was in 2017 and previous models. The reason why is that the main problem with the engines Ford sells is that their variable cam timing equipment is absolute junk and has been since they put it in their vehicles long ago. The 3.5 NA did have problems with its VCT, but not like other models. The one thing I will say about that motor though is that you better pay very close attention to the weep holes next to the timing cover...if you see coolant coming out you better get it to the dealership quick and make sure you've got 2500 lying around to fix your water pump (because if you don't, your engine will be toast). Anyway, besides VCT issues, Ford doesn't have a motor in these trucks that's tried and true anymore. They've changed a lot (and made things much more complex) without fixing all the issues with the previous generation of engines. The 5.0 is a good V8 from a design perspective...but the way it's being manufactured, evaluated by QC, and some of the parts make it hardly more reliable than the EcoBoost motors. This is despite what every technician at Ford will tell you...."the 5.0's are bulletproof, we see EcoBoosts but hardly a 5.0." That's a bunch of BS. Many of the issues a lot of people thought were gone from previous generations are still there, Ford has just gotten really good at convincing their customers there's nothing wrong until they're out of warranty. If you really want a reliable truck, go with a Tundra. Ford, FCA, and GM are all on par in terms of crap reliability and horse**** customer service. Tundras aren't a whole lot better but very rarely are you going to hear about dropped valves, thrown timing chains, warped cylinders, blown head gaskets, etc. on a Toyota motor with low mileage. It's all too common for the other 3.

Maybe I'm salty, but just giving you my $0.02...
That's funny. I've had probably close to 20 new cars and trucks and THE ONLY one that I've had trouble with (and sold back to Toyota under a Lemon Law) was a 2007 Toyota Tundra 5.7L. That and it's a dinosaur with a flimsy tailgate. It's a good looking pavement princess if you put a lift and some big tires on it. I'll stick with the Blue Oval. The Toyota is well, a Toy. (and yes, I've had more Toyotas than Fords, but Toyota is the most boring, overpriced, car maker out there, resting on their reputation of quality from the 80s and Consumer Reports fanboys)
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Old May 4, 2020 | 12:16 PM
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Just don't buy anything early in the design cycle. Ford doesn't put the same R&D into new designs that they used to. The bugs are worked out by the third or fourth year.
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Old May 4, 2020 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kericks1991
That's funny. I've had probably close to 20 new cars and trucks and THE ONLY one that I've had trouble with (and sold back to Toyota under a Lemon Law) was a 2007 Toyota Tundra 5.7L. That and it's a dinosaur with a flimsy tailgate. It's a good looking pavement princess if you put a lift and some big tires on it. I'll stick with the Blue Oval. The Toyota is well, a Toy. (and yes, I've had more Toyotas than Fords, but Toyota is the most boring, overpriced, car maker out there, resting on their reputation of quality from the 80s and Consumer Reports fanboys)

My brother in law, married to my eldest sister, works at a Toyota dealership, and warned me away from buying a Toyota for those reasons and more. He used to drive a Tundra, it was so unreliable, he sold it, and currently drives an F150.
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Old May 4, 2020 | 07:47 PM
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I would first look at the options you want/need. Some of them force you into a 3.5L EB. Then the chose is made for you.

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