Is The End In Sight? Ford Plans To Scale Back 5.0L V8 Production At Essex Engine Plan
#41
The other thing nobody has thought about is the Mustang sales slump. I’ve read since the 2018 redesign sales have been falling, which means less 5.0s and 2.3 ecoboosts in demand. I think it’s predecessor looked like a sharper car.
I can’t see the 7.3 replacing the 6.2......the 6.2 is a great entry engine for super duty buyers with a lot of punch and is a proven mill. The 7.3 is available all the way down to F-250 though, so it’s not just a V-10 replacement as the V10 wasn’t in a 3/4 ton.
I can’t see the 7.3 replacing the 6.2......the 6.2 is a great entry engine for super duty buyers with a lot of punch and is a proven mill. The 7.3 is available all the way down to F-250 though, so it’s not just a V-10 replacement as the V10 wasn’t in a 3/4 ton.
Last edited by ModularFord; 05-03-2019 at 11:28 AM.
#43
Senior Member
Don't believe Ford will deep 6 the V8 for F150's for at least 5 years or more. Even only selling it in 25% of their 150's is a HUGE number of trucks and therefore a lot of $$$$$. They obviously have a serious problem with the new 5.0's right now but it will get fixed because it's to expensive replacing engines. That doesn't make buyers that are having their 5.0's replaced feel any better but there's not much Ford can do about it. I debated buying a 5.0 but had good results with my 2012 (3.5) and tow quite often so stayed with another 3.5. I do miss the V8 sound but also drive a vette so that suffices when I need a V8 sound fix.
I still believe the 5.0 is an excellent engine that simply needs Ford to fix the oil consumption problem and take care of people that own one!
I still believe the 5.0 is an excellent engine that simply needs Ford to fix the oil consumption problem and take care of people that own one!
#44
Senior Member
I love me some V8 sound, no doubt even though I have a 3.5 EB. In fact when I was looking at new trucks before I bought mine I wanted either a 3.5 EB or 5.0, whichever I could find at the best price. That being said, there are many automakers (including Ford) that use the speakers to "enhance engine sound". How is it that no one has just straight up offered a fully customizable engine sounds option. For instance, why can't I choose to have my motor electronically sound (through speakers), like a V8, or a honda with a big chrome cannon, or a Ferrari, or a superbike, or a semi? I mean it would be easy enough to make it with many options you would think.
#45
I love me some V8 sound, no doubt even though I have a 3.5 EB. In fact when I was looking at new trucks before I bought mine I wanted either a 3.5 EB or 5.0, whichever I could find at the best price. That being said, there are many automakers (including Ford) that use the speakers to "enhance engine sound". How is it that no one has just straight up offered a fully customizable engine sounds option. For instance, why can't I choose to have my motor electronically sound (through speakers), like a V8, or a honda with a big chrome cannon, or a Ferrari, or a superbike, or a semi? I mean it would be easy enough to make it with many options you would think.
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#46
The 5.0 with the 10 speed have several problems and it may well be that some problems on the engine are caused by the transmission and that may not be an easy fix.... Also, if the timing chain thing is related to harmonics (like the 3.5 was), that will take time to solve.... Time here means money for you are putting out products that will lead to expensive warranty claims not to mention the damage to the brand....
If, at the same time, the 7.3L is a successful product, it would not be difficult to imagine the temptation to detune the engine for regular F150 and have the 5.0 only for Mustangs.... If the 7.3L is being planned to get into the Raptor, that would be an even more easy transition....
I have and I like the 5.0, but I have the tick, I have the knock and I have the chain slapping noise when cold, not to mention the "pop" when decelerating and the transmission hardshift(even after the TSB) and I'm monitoring the engine oil for comsumptiom..., if you add to it all the problems I don't have, but others have, you are talking about 1000s of hours of engineering to solve all of that..... make it double if the engine is going in two different applications like Mustangs and F150s....
In my view, if the 7.3 is successful, it makes sense to focus on getting the engine (and transmission) right for the Mustang (its a great engine for that application) and drop it for the F150s.....
Last edited by RACarvalho; 05-03-2019 at 01:11 PM.
#47
The 6.2 can only tow up to 16300lbs .
Today, If you have to tow 18000lbs and you want Ford, you need to go diesel - a very expensive upgrade - that will give you 35000lbs towing capacity....
The 7.3 would not only be a good replacement for the V10 but will also bring a middle ground option around 22000lbs towing capacity w/o the need for the expensive diesel.....
I tow heavy (9000lbs) with my 5.0 today and we are thinking on a 5er around 20000lbs GVWR for the future. With the options that Ford have today, I would have to upgrade to Diesel and that is too expensive for what I plan to do....
Now, If Ford have a gas truck that can tow 22000lbs, we will talk for they will have an option that GM and Ram don't have which is way less expensive...
Last edited by RACarvalho; 05-03-2019 at 01:37 PM.
#48
Senior Member
For instance, why can't I choose to have my motor electronically sound (through speakers), like a V8, or a honda with a big chrome cannon, or a Ferrari, or a superbike, or a semi?
For instance, check out this scooter, LOL.
#49
Senior Member
I think the previous 'stang looks like it has a silly smile going on, and appreciate the new design that eliminated that. Stang owners are indeed a fickle bunch, though, (and a bit too cocky), and gave me plenty of reason to switch from racing stangs to SHOs.
#50
Super Duper Senior Member
Sadly the Coyotes are now the ones getting replaced at an alarming rate (similar to the early EB's) and they aren't much cheaper.
Just for the heck of it, I pulled up the turbos on a '13 F150 3.5. They are $550 each from Tasca parts. Not exactly a HUGE sum of money these days. Not sure about the price difference between the two long blocks. In theory, the v6 long block should be cheaper.
Just for the heck of it, I pulled up the turbos on a '13 F150 3.5. They are $550 each from Tasca parts. Not exactly a HUGE sum of money these days. Not sure about the price difference between the two long blocks. In theory, the v6 long block should be cheaper.