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Old May 13, 2017 | 10:41 AM
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I wonder now how many of us are going to go out and check... LOL
All of us
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Old May 13, 2017 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by idrive
Not knowing the blocked out #'s, it looks like it could be the same "pattern"? Obviously there are two #'s on each pad. The #'s OP has shown while being different are still the same button.

Do the other #'s not shown still use the same button?

Still would expect them to be the same # but it looks like it's possible it's the same pattern.
Good point!

Yes, the other numbers use the same button in each of the code.

Thanks! Mystery solved. Still strange, though.

To the other posters, it's a new 2017 that I bought new in February. Factory ordered. Nothing has been replaced. No other owner.
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Old May 13, 2017 | 12:22 PM
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Simply not practical. First for the average person a 5 digit number is much easier to remember than a 10 digit number. Second it would require either much smaller buttons in the same space or a larger pad on the exterior which would look like crap. Third for this purpose a 5 digit combo offers more than adequate numeric possibilities. I have never heard of anyone trying to break into cars by standing there trying thousands of combinations. With todays tech nobody is breaking into a car with a keypad unless they have prior knowledge of the code. They will either simply pop the lock or hack the radio signal from the fob.
not 10 digits that the owner would remember, use the same 5 digit code but have the keypad not register 7 and 8 as the same thing. We go from only 3,125 possible combinations in the current system to 100,000 combinations, so it is now a lot harder for someone to guess their way into a vehicle. Also, by knowing 3 of the numbers in the OPs code, it would only take at most 25 tries to get in. With 10 buttons it'd take up to 100 tries to find the right combo. Ford's system just gives the illusion of greater security.
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Old May 13, 2017 | 12:46 PM
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Of course, by just guessing, the system locks you out for 1 minute after 35 key presses (7 wrong tries). So it would still take some time to "brute force" guess the code.

Most people/thieves would probably just break a window or the door handle or give up and go on to the next vehicle.
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Old May 13, 2017 | 02:01 PM
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I never could figure out the need for these things. I have had them on several vehicles, & have one on my `17 XLT, but never use them as the key/fob is always at hand. I did find out that I can lock the doors by pushing the bottom two buttons at the same time. I guess I`m just used to using the fob or the lock button.
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Old May 13, 2017 | 02:37 PM
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It's convenient when I go out kayaking. I don't have to take the key with me. I can stash it in the truck and and use the keypad to lock and unlock the truck.

There are other times when it is more convenient to leave the key fob in the truck and not have to carry it around.

Also, you don't have to worry about accidentally locking your keys in the truck. You can always use the keypad to get in.
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Old May 13, 2017 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stowaway
not 10 digits that the owner would remember, use the same 5 digit code but have the keypad not register 7 and 8 as the same thing. We go from only 3,125 possible combinations in the current system to 100,000 combinations, so it is now a lot harder for someone to guess their way into a vehicle. Also, by knowing 3 of the numbers in the OPs code, it would only take at most 25 tries to get in. With 10 buttons it'd take up to 100 tries to find the right combo. Ford's system just gives the illusion of greater security.
I get the math but at the end of the day, I think 10 buttons on the door is a bit excessive.
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Old May 13, 2017 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kenv47
I never could figure out the need for these things. I have had them on several vehicles, & have one on my `17 XLT, but never use them as the key/fob is always at hand. I did find out that I can lock the doors by pushing the bottom two buttons at the same time. I guess I`m just used to using the fob or the lock button.
I thought this was silly when I bought my truck, saw no use for it. About two weeks after I got my truck, I was doing some work in the garage. Needed something out of my truck, in the driveway. My keys were in my bedroom, 3 flights of stairs up. Key Code sure was nice.
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Old May 14, 2017 | 07:46 AM
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I use mine all often.
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Old May 14, 2017 | 09:46 AM
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There are often two codes listed as Factory Keyless Code when retrieved by IDS. And it is as you guys have discovered, a few digits are just off by one....
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