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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 01:26 AM
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Just took my truck in with 500 miles on it, has the “knock” that I’ve read so much about. Service manager says they are trying to find another F150 with a coyote motor to compare it to. My question is: are there different V8 engines for this truck(‘18 f150 xlt)? A regular 5.0, and a coyote motor option? I thought all the 5.0 motors in this model were the same.
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 02:14 AM
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For 2018 all the V8 Engines are the same 5.0L Coyote (3rd Generation) across all trim levels.
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 02:15 AM
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They are all the same. Any 2018+ F150 is going to have the same 3rd gen Coyote engine. The biggest difference for the 3rd gens is dual injection (port and direct), as well as improvements to the cylinder heads and a slightly larger displacement (just over 5 liters). The only other difference with the 3rd gen Coyote is they all seem to make horrible noises, whether it be clunking, rattling, or ticking. I'm starting to see enough failures that as a 2016 V8 owner, I'd take a pass on a 2018 and give Ford a model year or two to figure out the issues.
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 04:11 AM
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate that. I kinda wish I would have passed on it. I wonder if Ford does a buyback lol.
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 07:47 AM
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate that. I kinda wish I would have passed on it. I wonder if Ford does a buyback lol.

You have 3yrs and 36k miles to figure out if you need an extended warranty....just document all maintenance.
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 07:56 AM
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You have 3yrs and 36k miles to figure out if you need an extended warranty....just document all maintenance.
Thats what the salesman told me yesterday. (5yr/60k). I think it is absolutely ridiculous to spend that kind of money on something and it develop a knock, only to have the dealer do nothing about it. I told the salesman “ if ford says it’s normal, then that warranty isn't worth a lot, if it uses 4 qts. of oil between changes, but ford says its normal, again the warranty isn’t worth much.”
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 09:43 AM
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I'm wondering if the knock in the 3rd gen engines that Ford says is normal is going to be similar to the piston slap issue GM had with the Vortecs and the ticking FCA had with the Hemi. They both sounded bad but it didn't hurt the engine. Many of them ticked and slapped for couple of hundred thousand miles. Apparently they only consider it an issue if it causes engine damage.

Ironically, in GM's case, the generation of Vortecs with the piston slap was right before they started cylinder deactivation and are considered the most bullet proof of the series. They sound bad but they will go 200,000+ miles.
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I'm wondering if the knock in the 3rd gen engines that Ford says is normal is going to be similar to the piston slap issue GM had with the Vortecs and the ticking FCA had with the Hemi. They both sounded bad but it didn't hurt the engine. Many of them ticked and slapped for couple of hundred thousand miles. Apparently they only consider it an issue if it causes engine damage.

Ironically, in GM's case, the generation of Vortecs with the piston slap was right before they started cylinder deactivation and are considered the most bullet proof of the series. They sound bad but they will go 200,000+ miles.
I’ve wondered that myself. I agree, those were and are some great engines.
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Op, 4 qts.oil between changes? Wow the only thing good about that you have clean oil constantly. Man, that would get expensive over time. My '16 ' Yote has been flawless. Good luck.
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 01:18 PM
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Op, 4 qts.oil between changes? Wow the only thing good about that you have clean oil constantly. Man, that would get expensive over time. My '16 ' Yote has been flawless. Good luck.
lol. I was just making a point to the salesman about Ford saying certain things are “normal” to get out of replacing an engine. It’s only got 500 miles on it so, I hope it won’t use any oil between changes. Time will tell if I don’t get rid of it first.
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