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Cooling Seats issue and TSB feedback

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Old 09-12-2015, 10:46 PM
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Writing or lapel? I assume they work!
I wish lapel but a standard click pen...
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I got my revised TED in yesterday, brought my truck to work today and installed it. Cooling is working great on the back now. I had 2 on order but only one came in, waiting to see when I will get the other one. Happy to be able to use my seat coolers now.
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Originally Posted by MDBoostWorks
I got my revised TED in yesterday, brought my truck to work today and installed it. Cooling is working great on the back now. I had 2 on order but only one came in, waiting to see when I will get the other one. Happy to be able to use my seat coolers now.

Great to hear.....now there are 3 for 3 that fix the issue.....now supply of parts will frustrate many but at least we seemingly can put the major technical concerns behind us.


Did your findings match those that I posted as Preliminary Results from our pilot tests!?
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Great to hear.....now there are 3 for 3 that fix the issue.....now supply of parts will frustrate many but at least we seemingly can put the major technical concerns behind us.


Did your findings match those that I posted as Preliminary Results from our pilot tests!?
My findings are directly inline with your preliminary results. I had the cooler on for an hour and I had plenty of cool air on my back still, the whole perforated leather section was cool.
I did feel the seat back and above the seatback pocket was warm, not hot, but warm. I dont see it being a cause for concern though.
Very pleased with this fix, The overall appearance and feel of the ducting was actually pretty impressive to me, they thought this one out a bit for sure. I like that the duct can never collapse or suck shut due to the cell structure inside.

I also would like to note, This obviously is going to cost Ford a little bit of money due to replacing the whole TED assembly with the duct made to it. So I would like to say to those who said Ford was going to come up with some cheap piece of crap solution. This is a great quality fix and they definitely went above and beyond by making it a whole new TED unit instead of sending out ducts to attach to the old one.
I guess it all comes down to the old saying of "everybody makes mistakes, its how you handle them that matters".
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Originally Posted by MDBoostWorks
My findings are directly inline with your preliminary results. I had the cooler on for an hour and I had plenty of cool air on my back still, the whole perforated leather section was cool.
I did feel the seat back and above the seatback pocket was warm, not hot, but warm. I dont see it being a cause for concern though.
Very pleased with this fix, The overall appearance and feel of the ducting was actually pretty impressive to me, they thought this one out a bit for sure. I like that the duct can never collapse or suck shut due to the cell structure inside.

I also would like to note, This obviously is going to cost Ford a little bit of money due to replacing the whole TED assembly with the duct made to it. So I would like to say to those who said Ford was going to come up with some cheap piece of crap solution. This is a great quality fix and they definitely went above and beyond by making it a whole new TED unit instead of sending out ducts to attach to the old one.
I guess it all comes down to the old saying of "everybody makes mistakes, its how you handle them that matters".



Thanks MDBoostWorks....both your results and comments mirror mine and, I am sure, Tim's. That IS a comfort....LOL


The Ford Seat Engineering team (that oversees seat design across ALL Ford platforms) deserves a heap of credit for stepping up to the plate on this one. Yes, it took too long to escalate the issue and get a two way conversation going with owners but engineering, testing and vetting a fix in the form of a TSB was done with quality first and cost second in mind. Of course F-150 led the way and this Forum was instrumental in many ways….we still want to make the communications better…but look where we were a month or two ago! We still see some parts availability issues possible, but real progress has been made.

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Yep, lots of free R&D here and not even a free t-shirt or hat in return! LOL!
The Marine Corps (and maybe even the federal government) used to have a program called "Benny Suggs" (beneficial suggestions). If a person made a suggestion to improve a piece of gear or equipment that ended up saving the government money, that person received a portion, albeit a small portion, of the savings. Not that this was their goal, but was hoping Tim and AZPlat might reap some monetary recompense for all their time, efforts and expense.
Enjoy that writing pen Tim!!!

Who remembers the guy from a few months ago that said he made suggestions to Ford that saved them millions of $$$$ but would never tell what the suggestions or the systems affected were.
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Assuming a supplier designed this, I would expect the supplier to be eating these costs, not Ford.
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My new Lariat has a build date of August 2015 and I still have the cooled seat issue. I get cold *** air only on setting 3 and it's not felt in the back. On setting 2 or 1 I don't feel a thing even in a t-shirt.

Glad to hear their is a solution thats working.
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Originally Posted by MarineLDO
The Marine Corps (and maybe even the federal government) used to have a program called "Benny Suggs" (beneficial suggestions). If a person made a suggestion to improve a piece of gear or equipment that ended up saving the government money, that person received a portion, albeit a small portion, of the savings.
After I got out of the Air Force I was in the civil service and worked on Heli's for NADEP (NAVAL AIR DEPOT) we had that same thing and a friend and I designed a blade de-ice by-pass junction box saving the govt so much money and time. We all got a framed cert and money for our efforts.
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Originally Posted by MarineLDO
The Marine Corps (and maybe even the federal government) used to have a program called "Benny Suggs" (beneficial suggestions). If a person made a suggestion to improve a piece of gear or equipment that ended up saving the government money, that person received a portion, albeit a small portion, of the savings. Not that this was their goal, but was hoping Tim and AZPlat might reap some monetary recompense for all their time, efforts and expense.
Enjoy that writing pen Tim!!!

Who remembers the guy from a few months ago that said he made suggestions to Ford that saved them millions of $$$$ but would never tell what the suggestions or the systems affected were.
Its funny you mention that, Ford used to have a program that techs would write in ways to make certain part replacements easier, therefore cutting time off of the repair. So Ford would pay them $50 for their tip, and cut labor time down drastically to save them money because someone gave them a quicker way to do it. So the tech with the tip gained $50 and cut money out of every other techs pocket, including their own in the long run.


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