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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RL1990
So this is their secret liberal agenda? If so they're doing a horrible job pushing the agenda since they rated all Teslas in worst category. I swear people will put politics in everything these days.
They do 100% push the safety nanny (****) stuff, and have for years.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 02:45 PM
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Not sure why this would surprise anybody. There are a lot of problem areas on these trucks and Ford has done little to nothing to fix them over the model run. And the build quality of my truck is embarrassingly bad, like 1980s bad.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by David Hineline
When I wanted a new washing machine in the house, I got the CR account again as I had used them in the past. They rated the best of the best in new high efficiency washers. But the response of people who actually bought these washers was that they were the worst thing to happen to clean clothes ever designed. CR was pushing some liberal agenda rather than what actually cleans clothes. I checked consumer feedback and found that Speed Queen made in the USA washers were top consumer rated brands for cleaning. They did not even get a mention in CR.
I didn't know that the liberal agenda was to have everyone's clothes dirty. Appreciate the info!


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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by angelo7
Consumer Reports?! I only believe half of what they say.
Which half?
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RL1990
So this is their secret liberal agenda? If so they're doing a horrible job pushing the agenda since they rated all Teslas in worst category. I swear people will put politics in everything these days.
Wow! Just Wow! "Secret liberal agenda"? "Politics"???

How did you come up with that from reading my post? Every company, every organization, has an agenda, a reason for their existence. I've been a Consumer Reports subscriber for over 30 years. Every issue of their magazine has an editorial page wherein they state their agenda - which is to test consumer products and recommend ways to make them better - especially safer. So yes, they downrate the reliability of Tesla because that's what subscribers report. And yes, they push hybrid and electric vehicles (almost always highly recommend them) because their editorial staff believes that's what is best for most of us. Has nothing to do with a liberal agenda or conservative agenda or politics.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 06:29 PM
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Me too .. lol
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Which half?
The half in my favor.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 06:51 PM
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Back to CR and F150 having bad scores. Not surprised at all. I had a 2016 XLT and now own a 2019 Lariat with a loads of issues that most folks already listed above. Well, I experienced 'em all...mostly. These F150's are amazing trucks...when all systems work the way they're supposed to. Sadly it's far to be always the case.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kendive
Well they do have the 2016 Honda Pilot listed in the Worst Used Car section.

I still have my 2015 F150 and I would not downgrade to a newer year F150.
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FWIW the much on the Pilot was designed in the US from what I recall.
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Old Nov 14, 2021 | 09:57 PM
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I’ve used consumer reports for perspective on various purchases and never had an issue. It’s important to get your information from multiple sources, including those with competing agendas, to form a better understanding of the big picture.

As others have pointed out, it’s entirely possible the Japanese cars are more reliable. Having worked in product development I would discourage anyone from taking on the belief that Americans innovate and foreigners copy us. If you think a Japanese truck has never found its way to a Ford engineering lab or led to design changes in the F series, you’re in for disappointment. Benchmarking is a standard practice worldwide.

Originally Posted by BadAV
They do 100% push the safety nanny (****) stuff, and have for years.
Despite being named the national socialist party, the ***** preached fascism. That lands on the far right of the political spectrum. Objectively speaking it would be more appropriate to call that a right wing agenda rather than liberal. Beyond that, many safety features indeed improve safety. Insightful, I know.
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