Blown Ecoboost at 21k miles!
10-30-2017, 11:03 PM
#112
Senior Member
I hate to convict the OP without a trial, but I was instantly suspicious when I read his post. It just didn't smell right.
As for the warranty issue, I couldn't agree more with those who cite the 'pay to play' ideal. If the OP had the knowledge to mod his engine, then he also had to know there were risks. Why anybody would mod an engine in a pickup truck in the first place is beyond me, but that's probably neither here nor there. He probably never had a shovel full of dirt in his bed, either.
What bugs the living heck out of me is people doing stuff like that and then being dishonest about it. He was clearly trying to cover his tracks by deleting his posts. The only reason to do that is because he wants Ford (or somebody else) to pay for his screw up. And that's just chicken s**t to me. Those who think it's ok, well, it's not.
It's fraud. It's theft. I know, there are people who reason that Ford is a huge, wealthy corporation with deep pockets. They can afford to replace the engine I blew up. True. They can. But it isn't Ford paying for this. All of us Ford customers are paying for it. Just like every time your insurance company is successfully defrauded, you are paying for the thief's gain with your premiums. Every time your neighbor cheats on his taxes, the road in front of your house doesn't get repaired until you pay extra for it. The examples are endless. But you get the idea. Every successful fraud costs us all, even the most honest and decent and selfless among us.
And no, I don't like it one bit. Nor do I feel a bit sorry for the OP. He knew what he was doing. And he'll know exactly what he's doing when he asks all of us Ford customers to bend over so he can get his truck fixed for free. I sincerely hope Ford won't ask us to do that.
As for the warranty issue, I couldn't agree more with those who cite the 'pay to play' ideal. If the OP had the knowledge to mod his engine, then he also had to know there were risks. Why anybody would mod an engine in a pickup truck in the first place is beyond me, but that's probably neither here nor there. He probably never had a shovel full of dirt in his bed, either.
What bugs the living heck out of me is people doing stuff like that and then being dishonest about it. He was clearly trying to cover his tracks by deleting his posts. The only reason to do that is because he wants Ford (or somebody else) to pay for his screw up. And that's just chicken s**t to me. Those who think it's ok, well, it's not.
It's fraud. It's theft. I know, there are people who reason that Ford is a huge, wealthy corporation with deep pockets. They can afford to replace the engine I blew up. True. They can. But it isn't Ford paying for this. All of us Ford customers are paying for it. Just like every time your insurance company is successfully defrauded, you are paying for the thief's gain with your premiums. Every time your neighbor cheats on his taxes, the road in front of your house doesn't get repaired until you pay extra for it. The examples are endless. But you get the idea. Every successful fraud costs us all, even the most honest and decent and selfless among us.
And no, I don't like it one bit. Nor do I feel a bit sorry for the OP. He knew what he was doing. And he'll know exactly what he's doing when he asks all of us Ford customers to bend over so he can get his truck fixed for free. I sincerely hope Ford won't ask us to do that.
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10-30-2017, 11:54 PM
#113
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I hate to convict the OP without a trial, but I was instantly suspicious when I read his post. It just didn't smell right.
As for the warranty issue, I couldn't agree more with those who cite the 'pay to play' ideal. If the OP had the knowledge to mod his engine, then he also had to know there were risks. Why anybody would mod an engine in a pickup truck in the first place is beyond me, but that's probably neither here nor there. He probably never had a shovel full of dirt in his bed, either.
What bugs the living heck out of me is people doing stuff like that and then being dishonest about it. He was clearly trying to cover his tracks by deleting his posts. The only reason to do that is because he wants Ford (or somebody else) to pay for his screw up. And that's just chicken s**t to me. Those who think it's ok, well, it's not.
It's fraud. It's theft. I know, there are people who reason that Ford is a huge, wealthy corporation with deep pockets. They can afford to replace the engine I blew up. True. They can. But it isn't Ford paying for this. All of us Ford customers are paying for it. Just like every time your insurance company is successfully defrauded, you are paying for the thief's gain with your premiums. Every time your neighbor cheats on his taxes, the road in front of your house doesn't get repaired until you pay extra for it. The examples are endless. But you get the idea. Every successful fraud costs us all, even the most honest and decent and selfless among us.
And no, I don't like it one bit. Nor do I feel a bit sorry for the OP. He knew what he was doing. And he'll know exactly what he's doing when he asks all of us Ford customers to bend over so he can get his truck fixed for free. I sincerely hope Ford won't ask us to do that.
As for the warranty issue, I couldn't agree more with those who cite the 'pay to play' ideal. If the OP had the knowledge to mod his engine, then he also had to know there were risks. Why anybody would mod an engine in a pickup truck in the first place is beyond me, but that's probably neither here nor there. He probably never had a shovel full of dirt in his bed, either.
What bugs the living heck out of me is people doing stuff like that and then being dishonest about it. He was clearly trying to cover his tracks by deleting his posts. The only reason to do that is because he wants Ford (or somebody else) to pay for his screw up. And that's just chicken s**t to me. Those who think it's ok, well, it's not.
It's fraud. It's theft. I know, there are people who reason that Ford is a huge, wealthy corporation with deep pockets. They can afford to replace the engine I blew up. True. They can. But it isn't Ford paying for this. All of us Ford customers are paying for it. Just like every time your insurance company is successfully defrauded, you are paying for the thief's gain with your premiums. Every time your neighbor cheats on his taxes, the road in front of your house doesn't get repaired until you pay extra for it. The examples are endless. But you get the idea. Every successful fraud costs us all, even the most honest and decent and selfless among us.
And no, I don't like it one bit. Nor do I feel a bit sorry for the OP. He knew what he was doing. And he'll know exactly what he's doing when he asks all of us Ford customers to bend over so he can get his truck fixed for free. I sincerely hope Ford won't ask us to do that.
10-31-2017, 10:16 AM
#114
Senior Member
Does FORD even monitor these forums these days? Its been a couple of years since FORD had customer service reps on here. Probably overwhelmed them on here with the complaints generated.
anyways, yes, the op did delete some of his posts after the fact. I guess the paranoia set in. But, how in the world would FORD even remotely even connect his incident described on here to any incident that might happen to pop up at a local dealer's service department? He didn't use his real name.... His city/state wasn't listed...
I think mods are just plain "at your own risk". People get lifts and bigger tires and complain about their rough ride and think somethings wrong with the truck since it vibrates.
People install tuners and their truck runs weird.
What's wrong with just using the truck as you bought it?
anyways, yes, the op did delete some of his posts after the fact. I guess the paranoia set in. But, how in the world would FORD even remotely even connect his incident described on here to any incident that might happen to pop up at a local dealer's service department? He didn't use his real name.... His city/state wasn't listed...
I think mods are just plain "at your own risk". People get lifts and bigger tires and complain about their rough ride and think somethings wrong with the truck since it vibrates.
People install tuners and their truck runs weird.
What's wrong with just using the truck as you bought it?
I hate to convict the OP without a trial, but I was instantly suspicious when I read his post. It just didn't smell right.
What bugs the living heck out of me is people doing stuff like that and then being dishonest about it. He was clearly trying to cover his tracks by deleting his posts. The only reason to do that is because he wants Ford (or somebody else) to pay for his screw up. .
What bugs the living heck out of me is people doing stuff like that and then being dishonest about it. He was clearly trying to cover his tracks by deleting his posts. The only reason to do that is because he wants Ford (or somebody else) to pay for his screw up. .
10-31-2017, 10:17 AM
#115
Senior Member
I hate to convict the OP without a trial, but I was instantly suspicious when I read his post. It just didn't smell right.
As for the warranty issue, I couldn't agree more with those who cite the 'pay to play' ideal. If the OP had the knowledge to mod his engine, then he also had to know there were risks. Why anybody would mod an engine in a pickup truck in the first place is beyond me, but that's probably neither here nor there. He probably never had a shovel full of dirt in his bed, either.
What bugs the living heck out of me is people doing stuff like that and then being dishonest about it. He was clearly trying to cover his tracks by deleting his posts. The only reason to do that is because he wants Ford (or somebody else) to pay for his screw up. And that's just chicken s**t to me. Those who think it's ok, well, it's not.
It's fraud. It's theft. I know, there are people who reason that Ford is a huge, wealthy corporation with deep pockets. They can afford to replace the engine I blew up. True. They can. But it isn't Ford paying for this. All of us Ford customers are paying for it. Just like every time your insurance company is successfully defrauded, you are paying for the thief's gain with your premiums. Every time your neighbor cheats on his taxes, the road in front of your house doesn't get repaired until you pay extra for it. The examples are endless. But you get the idea. Every successful fraud costs us all, even the most honest and decent and selfless among us.
And no, I don't like it one bit. Nor do I feel a bit sorry for the OP. He knew what he was doing. And he'll know exactly what he's doing when he asks all of us Ford customers to bend over so he can get his truck fixed for free. I sincerely hope Ford won't ask us to do that.
As for the warranty issue, I couldn't agree more with those who cite the 'pay to play' ideal. If the OP had the knowledge to mod his engine, then he also had to know there were risks. Why anybody would mod an engine in a pickup truck in the first place is beyond me, but that's probably neither here nor there. He probably never had a shovel full of dirt in his bed, either.
What bugs the living heck out of me is people doing stuff like that and then being dishonest about it. He was clearly trying to cover his tracks by deleting his posts. The only reason to do that is because he wants Ford (or somebody else) to pay for his screw up. And that's just chicken s**t to me. Those who think it's ok, well, it's not.
It's fraud. It's theft. I know, there are people who reason that Ford is a huge, wealthy corporation with deep pockets. They can afford to replace the engine I blew up. True. They can. But it isn't Ford paying for this. All of us Ford customers are paying for it. Just like every time your insurance company is successfully defrauded, you are paying for the thief's gain with your premiums. Every time your neighbor cheats on his taxes, the road in front of your house doesn't get repaired until you pay extra for it. The examples are endless. But you get the idea. Every successful fraud costs us all, even the most honest and decent and selfless among us.
And no, I don't like it one bit. Nor do I feel a bit sorry for the OP. He knew what he was doing. And he'll know exactly what he's doing when he asks all of us Ford customers to bend over so he can get his truck fixed for free. I sincerely hope Ford won't ask us to do that.
What i don't get is why soup-up these truck engines especially when still under warranty? They're trucks not Mustangs!
IMO, these trucks are dam fast already (for a truck) fresh from the factory.
10-31-2017, 10:18 AM
#116
Senior Member
P.S. The OP was on here Yesterday(Monday) @ 08:59 PM. Clearly he's reading replies to this thread, but no response since he posted.
10-31-2017, 10:27 AM
#117
Senior Member
I was just talking to my dad today about tossing an exhaust, intake and tune on this morning.
But then I read this. And even being someone who only became a member recently I have read on several occasions that SSI tunes are a no no. Also how does the tune interact with each drive mode? It seems as though ford has its own tune....sport mode.
I was driving home today and I put it in sport mode, And one take off caught me off guard, I was moving! It really doesn't need any more power, and seriously a mustang or sports car can be had for cheaper than a blown motor : )
But then I read this. And even being someone who only became a member recently I have read on several occasions that SSI tunes are a no no. Also how does the tune interact with each drive mode? It seems as though ford has its own tune....sport mode.
I was driving home today and I put it in sport mode, And one take off caught me off guard, I was moving! It really doesn't need any more power, and seriously a mustang or sports car can be had for cheaper than a blown motor : )
10-31-2017, 10:34 AM
#118
Removed. Don't wish to be involved with abject stupidity of people on the internet.
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10-31-2017, 10:41 AM
#119
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I have been following this carefully as I just bought a EB. I am very interested to find out what Ford says.
Ford USED to take the position that ANY MODIFICATION TO THE VEHICLE AT ALL was grounds to deny warranty claims. That was the orders given to the dealership I wrenched for in the 1970's by the Ford tech rep. That also seems to be the position of many here and I think it is out of line. I agree with the 'theft' comment, but am not convinced anyone here knows the real answer. We strongly suspect, but only the tech and engineer who looks at the evidence will know for sure.
For those swearing the OP should be hammered for tuning, what would your response be if the exact same failure occurred to you? Have you lifted or leveled your truck - that IS a modification. How about upgraded your lights?
All I am suggesting is that we try to us an open mind that can be confused with facts rather than an insensitive brick wall of the already made decision regardless of facts unknown.
No, I don't like that the OP removed all those posts but that is not a guilty plea rather it is the action of someone who was told of the old Ford policies and is scared. I would be also.
What do *I* think? I doubt the tune blew the engine, but it is possible. It is more likely the metallurgy failed. It happens. While the tune MAY have made that more likely, flaws do creep into the manufacturing process and this sounds like one. As I said earlier, only the tech and the engineer involved in the warranty decision process will ever know for sure.
Ford USED to take the position that ANY MODIFICATION TO THE VEHICLE AT ALL was grounds to deny warranty claims. That was the orders given to the dealership I wrenched for in the 1970's by the Ford tech rep. That also seems to be the position of many here and I think it is out of line. I agree with the 'theft' comment, but am not convinced anyone here knows the real answer. We strongly suspect, but only the tech and engineer who looks at the evidence will know for sure.
For those swearing the OP should be hammered for tuning, what would your response be if the exact same failure occurred to you? Have you lifted or leveled your truck - that IS a modification. How about upgraded your lights?
All I am suggesting is that we try to us an open mind that can be confused with facts rather than an insensitive brick wall of the already made decision regardless of facts unknown.
No, I don't like that the OP removed all those posts but that is not a guilty plea rather it is the action of someone who was told of the old Ford policies and is scared. I would be also.
What do *I* think? I doubt the tune blew the engine, but it is possible. It is more likely the metallurgy failed. It happens. While the tune MAY have made that more likely, flaws do creep into the manufacturing process and this sounds like one. As I said earlier, only the tech and the engineer involved in the warranty decision process will ever know for sure.
I don't believe changing lights or leveling a truck is going to result in catastrophic engine failure? Those type of mods might cause electrial problems or uneven wear of the drive train. Let me say again for the record... I have ZERO problem should someone want to mod their truck. However when it goes bad then don't try to defraud Ford so they pay for those mods! Man up and pay for it yourself or just leave the truck stock until out of warranty.
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10-31-2017, 10:43 AM
#120
I have been following this carefully as I just bought a EB. I am very interested to find out what Ford says.
Ford USED to take the position that ANY MODIFICATION TO THE VEHICLE AT ALL was grounds to deny warranty claims. That was the orders given to the dealership I wrenched for in the 1970's by the Ford tech rep. That also seems to be the position of many here and I think it is out of line. I agree with the 'theft' comment, but am not convinced anyone here knows the real answer. We strongly suspect, but only the tech and engineer who looks at the evidence will know for sure.
For those swearing the OP should be hammered for tuning, what would your response be if the exact same failure occurred to you? Have you lifted or leveled your truck - that IS a modification. How about upgraded your lights?
All I am suggesting is that we try to us an open mind that can be confused with facts rather than an insensitive brick wall of the already made decision regardless of facts unknown.
No, I don't like that the OP removed all those posts but that is not a guilty plea rather it is the action of someone who was told of the old Ford policies and is scared. I would be also.
What do *I* think? I doubt the tune blew the engine, but it is possible. It is more likely the metallurgy failed. It happens. While the tune MAY have made that more likely, flaws do creep into the manufacturing process and this sounds like one. As I said earlier, only the tech and the engineer involved in the warranty decision process will ever know for sure.
Ford USED to take the position that ANY MODIFICATION TO THE VEHICLE AT ALL was grounds to deny warranty claims. That was the orders given to the dealership I wrenched for in the 1970's by the Ford tech rep. That also seems to be the position of many here and I think it is out of line. I agree with the 'theft' comment, but am not convinced anyone here knows the real answer. We strongly suspect, but only the tech and engineer who looks at the evidence will know for sure.
For those swearing the OP should be hammered for tuning, what would your response be if the exact same failure occurred to you? Have you lifted or leveled your truck - that IS a modification. How about upgraded your lights?
All I am suggesting is that we try to us an open mind that can be confused with facts rather than an insensitive brick wall of the already made decision regardless of facts unknown.
No, I don't like that the OP removed all those posts but that is not a guilty plea rather it is the action of someone who was told of the old Ford policies and is scared. I would be also.
What do *I* think? I doubt the tune blew the engine, but it is possible. It is more likely the metallurgy failed. It happens. While the tune MAY have made that more likely, flaws do creep into the manufacturing process and this sounds like one. As I said earlier, only the tech and the engineer involved in the warranty decision process will ever know for sure.