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Old 04-21-2020, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jfabes
Want to ask a question here without getting flamed, purely out of interest. Ignorantly, I didn't know about 5* when I tuned my 2.7 almost 4 years ago and went with Livernois, which I loved.. When I bought my 3.5, I went with them again partially because of the cost break since I had them prior, and partly because I was so pleased with the 2.7. Over the last two years, I've read so many threads about 5* and see how they've gained popularity. My truck with LN runs like all get out. Its fast. Huge improvement over stock at every rpm point and chirps my 33" tires on the 1-2 shifts. I've had many tuned german cars before and have a GT350 now, so i'm no stranger to what "fast" is.

So can someone please explain the lure with 5* over LN? Is there some bad mojo with LN from the past? Is the 5* tune really better? Safer? Faster? Again, I'm just trying to understand all of it from an unbiased point of view.since when I read these threads, they are always 5* heavy. Any insight is appreciated
I have a 5* tune. It's the only company, only tune I've had (I mean, back in the day I had tunes done on my cammed and 4k stall DD LS1 Camaro but that's a different realm)

The 'lure' of 5* to me was a few things
  • Huge number of real-people testimonials, such as members of this board
  • Available warranty which indicates they have a high degree of faith in the safety of their tunes
  • Despite huge numbers of real-people testimonials on how great their tunes are, apparently nobody has tried 'collecting' on their warranty yet. Not one mention anywhere on the web I could find to a person needing to use their warranty or even having a problem and wishing they had bought the warranty. That, to me, is huge
But, if you have livernois and are happy with it, I wouldn't change a thing

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what I never get is people who just get the first tune and never datalog to send in( From any company), you’re basically running an off-the-shelf tune unless you datalog and get revisions to dial it into your truck.
I am that guy. No, it doesn't really make sense I admit. It's a combination of laziness and not wanting to mess with a good thing / "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

While I tell myself I have full faith and confidence that a log and alterations done by 5* could only make it better, it's so good on first install and I like it so much, I'm kind of afraid of change. It drives wonderfully great and is 5.05 0-60 dragy verified with 34" 10 ply ridge grapplers

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5 Star ever get their transmission shifting worked out well enough?
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Short of worrying about destroying a trans (maybe why they did it?), you do want your torque down low. For a truck pulling a trailer or not, you really want the torque as low as possible. It will help hold gears etc..

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5 Star ever get their transmission shifting worked out well enough?
...when did they not?

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Short of worrying about destroying a trans (maybe why they did it?), you do want your torque down low. For a truck pulling a trailer or not, you really want the torque as low as possible. It will help hold gears etc..
There are different tunes. For example, "Performance", "Performance/Tow", "Economy", etc

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If you had driven one with a tune you wouldn't think of making this post
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...when did they not?
When did they ..& try not to sound butt hurt with your response. I may actually use 5 Star (purchasing something today actually) & your not selling it very well.

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When did they ..& try not to sound butt hurt with your response. I may actually use 5 Star (purchasing something today actually) & your not selling it very well.
They may not be for you
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They may not be for you
Too late now. I'll be seeing how they do hopefully by early next week at the latest.

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So who do I choose?!!
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Originally Posted by Ol’ Red
5 Star because they have probably tuned more f150s than both of the others combined.
lol.. How do you know they have tuned more? That’s a very bold statement! I’ve been using Livernois for years and Love it. I get great power from there tunes also huge shift improvements.
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Not to mention Livernois motorsports is in Dearborn Michigan the home of the F-150 and Ford! Livernois also has great customer service and knowledgeable when you talk to them.


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