Avoid Fox 2.0 Coil-overs
03-30-2017, 09:38 AM
#41
I've been following this, serious question. How can you visually or with measurement know they are set a 2" of lift prior to installation? Unlike the bilsteins with notches of known lift measurements, these are threaded coil overs. You would have to have a reference point to start with. Are these marked in some way?
If I ordered a set, based on what I read from the vendors, I would assume they are pre-set to about 2". I would be annoyed if I installed them, found out they were not, then had to remove them to change the height.
If I ordered a set, based on what I read from the vendors, I would assume they are pre-set to about 2". I would be annoyed if I installed them, found out they were not, then had to remove them to change the height.
03-30-2017, 10:53 AM
#42
Senior Member
I've been following this, serious question. How can you visually or with measurement know they are set a 2" of lift prior to installation? Unlike the bilsteins with notches of known lift measurements, these are threaded coil overs. You would have to have a reference point to start with. Are these marked in some way?
If I ordered a set, based on what I read from the vendors, I would assume they are pre-set to about 2". I would be annoyed if I installed them, found out they were not, then had to remove them to change the height.
If I ordered a set, based on what I read from the vendors, I would assume they are pre-set to about 2". I would be annoyed if I installed them, found out they were not, then had to remove them to change the height.
03-30-2017, 11:14 AM
#43
2015 F150 Guy
I've been following this, serious question. How can you visually or with measurement know they are set a 2" of lift prior to installation? Unlike the bilsteins with notches of known lift measurements, these are threaded coil overs. You would have to have a reference point to start with. Are these marked in some way?
If I ordered a set, based on what I read from the vendors, I would assume they are pre-set to about 2". I would be annoyed if I installed them, found out they were not, then had to remove them to change the height.
If I ordered a set, based on what I read from the vendors, I would assume they are pre-set to about 2". I would be annoyed if I installed them, found out they were not, then had to remove them to change the height.
It's empirically calculated by them. There're no marks etc. Just threads. I'd NEVER buy something you can't adjust on the car, or without a specialized(very EXPENSIVE) tool. crazy.
That said, ALL coilovers are like that. The idea is, you're supposed to have the car cornerweighted after the install. That's when they park the car with a separate scale under each tire and adjust the coils for even weight distribution ... but who does that? In the past, when I've done coils, I set them about the same, install them and then measure and tweak each one with the car on flat ground. Really, the factory setup is just a starting point. In most cases I'd assume they'll require tuning. THAT's why people are dissing the Fox 2.0 coils. They're really NOT RIGHT. Guys are buying them (IMHO) for the price point. $1000 is all they can sneak by their wives LOL.
Go for the ICON 2.5 for a couple extra hundred. You get WAY more product and you can adjust them on the car without any special tools(a hex key and drift).
TomJV
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03-30-2017, 11:19 AM
#44
Love Turbo V6 & Coyote V8
WAHHHHH... Someone politely bashed my favorite FOX brand shocks and so I will chime in and call him an idiot...
What a joke...
Some people on here get so bent out of shape when someone feels that they were not fulfilled with what they were promised from a company. Yes, it is a simple fix but to those that cannot do the work themselves will have to pay out. Even if it was me and I was going to do the work, I would be annoyed that I would have to take it apart again only to make adjustments. Who wants to rip things apart more then once??? This is the first time I have read that a particular coil over with the threaded shaft requires the removal to adjust.. That is a PLAIN STUPID DESIGN which I would not purchase!
Good luck OP, Good on you for standing in what you feel wasn't right and doing it in such a way to only point out what you felt was wrong and not paint everything fox makes as bad!
What a joke...
Some people on here get so bent out of shape when someone feels that they were not fulfilled with what they were promised from a company. Yes, it is a simple fix but to those that cannot do the work themselves will have to pay out. Even if it was me and I was going to do the work, I would be annoyed that I would have to take it apart again only to make adjustments. Who wants to rip things apart more then once??? This is the first time I have read that a particular coil over with the threaded shaft requires the removal to adjust.. That is a PLAIN STUPID DESIGN which I would not purchase!
Good luck OP, Good on you for standing in what you feel wasn't right and doing it in such a way to only point out what you felt was wrong and not paint everything fox makes as bad!
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03-30-2017, 11:22 AM
#46
Senior Member
It's empirically calculated by them. There're no marks etc. Just threads. I'd NEVER buy something you can't adjust on the car, or without a specialized(very EXPENSIVE) tool. crazy.
That said, ALL coilovers are like that. The idea is, you're supposed to have the car cornerweighted after the install. That's when they park the car with a separate scale under each tire and adjust the coils for even weight distribution ... but who does that? In the past, when I've done coils, I set them about the same, install them and then measure and tweak each one with the car on flat ground. Really, the factory setup is just a starting point. In most cases I'd assume they'll require tuning. THAT's why people are dissing the Fox 2.0 coils. They're really NOT RIGHT. Guys are buying them (IMHO) for the price point. $1000 is all they can sneak by their wives LOL.
Go for the ICON 2.5 for a couple extra hundred. You get WAY more product and you can adjust them on the car without any special tools(a hex key and drift).
TomJV
That said, ALL coilovers are like that. The idea is, you're supposed to have the car cornerweighted after the install. That's when they park the car with a separate scale under each tire and adjust the coils for even weight distribution ... but who does that? In the past, when I've done coils, I set them about the same, install them and then measure and tweak each one with the car on flat ground. Really, the factory setup is just a starting point. In most cases I'd assume they'll require tuning. THAT's why people are dissing the Fox 2.0 coils. They're really NOT RIGHT. Guys are buying them (IMHO) for the price point. $1000 is all they can sneak by their wives LOL.
Go for the ICON 2.5 for a couple extra hundred. You get WAY more product and you can adjust them on the car without any special tools(a hex key and drift).
TomJV
03-30-2017, 11:26 AM
#47
Let the Fun Begin
Unfortunately some guys (Like myself) bought them in the winter to install in the summer. I am way past the 30 Day return date. and if i would have known i would have bought the 2.5.. Unfortunately what is done is done so these are going on my truck. However i would like to set it right the first time.
I'd be pissed if after installing i saw that one side was 1/2 inch lower do to truck weight or some other circumstance and then had to remove the entire coilover again just to adjust it to get that extra 1/2 inch
03-30-2017, 12:24 PM
#48
Senior Member
Full removal of a coilover for minor adjustments is a combination of poor design and poor quality components. While I have no problem personally adjusting the well-designed and well-built coilovers on my track cars and motorcycle, you are right about not having a wall mounted spring compressor. I do, however, accept donations to further improve my garage.
03-30-2017, 02:09 PM
#49
On the bright side, most bases. Army at least, have auto shops that have lifts and tools you can use to work on your vehicle.
03-30-2017, 02:32 PM
#50
Member
Thread Starter
Seeing as you don't proof read your own posts before submitting them, I highly doubt you've taken the time to research what we are discussing here. Despite the fact that it was brought up once already, I'll simplify things for you. I did plenty of research before making this purchase and was confident in both product and company due to their track record and their own descriptions. Here it is, direct from Fox.
http://www.ridefox.com/dl/truck/manu...o-ford-web.pdf
You will note that these are installation instructions for the 09+ 2.0 IFP coil-over kit for the F150. Now scroll to page 2 of these instructions. Now, I know this is the hard part for you, but read bullet point 2. Let me help you save some time:
"You will be able to make preload adjustments if needed once the shock assembly is installed (spanner wrench required)."
Fox should not put this in the instruction manual if it is categorically untrue.
Why did I use instructions for 2009+ F150's? because 2009+ includes the year 2016 (my model year, in case you haven't been following). Here is the link to all Fox instructions:
http://www.ridefox.com/help.php?m=tr...&ref=lnav_help
You will notice that there is no 2014+ option. This implies that the 2009+ instructions are applicable to all model years following 2009.
Please let me know if you need any more clarification as to what is being discussed in this thread.
http://www.ridefox.com/dl/truck/manu...o-ford-web.pdf
You will note that these are installation instructions for the 09+ 2.0 IFP coil-over kit for the F150. Now scroll to page 2 of these instructions. Now, I know this is the hard part for you, but read bullet point 2. Let me help you save some time:
"You will be able to make preload adjustments if needed once the shock assembly is installed (spanner wrench required)."
Fox should not put this in the instruction manual if it is categorically untrue.
Why did I use instructions for 2009+ F150's? because 2009+ includes the year 2016 (my model year, in case you haven't been following). Here is the link to all Fox instructions:
http://www.ridefox.com/help.php?m=tr...&ref=lnav_help
You will notice that there is no 2014+ option. This implies that the 2009+ instructions are applicable to all model years following 2009.
Please let me know if you need any more clarification as to what is being discussed in this thread.
Last edited by alpineovernappa; 03-30-2017 at 02:44 PM.