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Old 10-11-2016, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBoost
Oh god, stop trolling. The 3 threads you started got locked. You trying to get this one locked too? Take the hint. Give it a rest man... Next you're gonna say it wouldn't have happened if it were a diesel truck lmao
How is is trolling to contradict the question "why didn't you take off the antennae," with "fair enough but it is the responsibility of the car wash?"
Old 10-11-2016, 06:27 PM
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Again as I have posted they HAVE NO SIGN! I have pictures of the place if you feel I really need to post them. My insurance company already paid for it and is going after the owner of the place. I have no doubt I will win my deductible in small claims court.
Well in that case they may have screwed themselves over I've never seen a car wash that didn't have that sign. Not a big chain then I'm guessing?
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I just googled "car wash antenna damage" and this isn't that uncommon apparently. This person claims to have ripped out 7 antennas in 2 weeks. Not just Aluminum vehicles

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Originally Posted by ls2c6vette
I just googled "car wash antenna damage" and this isn't that uncommon apparently. This person claims to have ripped out 7 antennas in 2 weeks. Not just Aluminum vehicles

Similar to what i googled for that picture i posted earlier
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Originally Posted by mbullock
Similar to what i googled for that picture i posted earlier
Somewhere on that forum they talk about adjusting the top roller in the car wash to prevent this from happening. That to me sounds like the machine malfunctioning

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Originally Posted by WTF150
That's just stupidity lol
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Old 10-11-2016, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by photomankc
They do use thicker panels because they absolutely had to. Aluminum is not steel. It behaves MUCH differently when stressed. With the addition of a vice grip and some initial implement to give me a starting point I can 'tear' 1/16" Aluminum. Aluminum responds to this much different than steel. Once a tear or crack is formed AL is hosed. From there it will expand. This is why aircraft must be closely inspected at rivet joints and other stressed locations.

Aluminum is light so it's used in aircraft, even in 'military' aircraft. Nothing about that changes a thing about the properties of one of the softest metals on the periodic table. Alloys make it tougher, but it WILL NEVER BE STEEL.

On a side note, with a pair of pliers. I peeled back a chuck of door panel on a junk car as well. Guess what I needed to get that started. Yep, a claw hammer to get the initial tear going. Once that happened the steel peeled back just like that, but tended to stay in thinner strips.
I think I addressed this in another post. I'm aware of the differences. The way stress is distributed around the hole that the antenna is mounted makes a difference as well. Different series of aluminum have different properties...some are more ductile than others, some are more brittle...it's hard to compare steel to aluminum when you're talking about alloys that can have significantly different properties depending on tempering, annealing, etc. But still...as far as yield strength, ductility, there are clear differences between any series of steel or aluminum.

My comment about more aluminum being used (or not) was in response to what looked like a tear in a thin aluminum can. It didn't look as thick as I had expected it to be. Most of that probably is due to the picture...

There's no doubt that aluminum is not steel in any way shape or form. I don't think I said that it was.
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Originally Posted by BlackBoost
Well in that case they may have screwed themselves over I've never seen a car wash that didn't have that sign. Not a big chain then I'm guessing?
I hope calling this ignorant is not a name and I am not trolling. I want to help anyone who runs into this. Posting a sign does not relieve most liability in most states. The car washes know that most people will read the sign and accept it as some sort of liability release. The law varies from State to State so look it up. In any case car washes all have insurance and the place to start is by making a claim. In the instant case, the OP already has and should be refunded his deductible as well.
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Back to the real issue: I don't see this as an aluminum problem. I think Steele could have gotten torn up just as bad or worse. There is no way to tell.


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