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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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Who has a level with 5100s and had an alignment after?
What were the alignment measurements before the adjustment? What was out and by how much?

Im curious to understand how much toe and camber are impacted
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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 10:35 AM
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That depends on what you have to do to get the kit installed. My LCAs didn’t want to droop far enough to clear the studs at the bottom of each strut. I ended up dropping the LCAs and then reassembling after the studs were in place. That obviously trashed my alignment.
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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 10:50 AM
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With the exception of every truck being leveled REQUIRING an alignment every truck will be different pre & post...period. Depends on how many miles are on the truck, bushing conditions, frame flex & 'lean', etc. You are also asking a lot to assume the alignment was spot on before the level was installed.

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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 10:59 AM
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Who knows their current alignment spec?
I do know mine -because I just had it aligned 9 days ago.
It might be different in 6 months if I choose to replace the front suspension.
I did not know how much it was out before the alignment though. I could not honestly tell you today that the installation of new front suspension screwed it up 'that' much. Most of us won't have a baseline number to compare the 'after' results against.

Not sure what exactly you're asking. Seems like a creative way to ask "do I really need to spend an extra hundred bucks to protect my truck"

IF you do not want to align your truck. Don't. If it handles like crud, maybe reconsider and have the alignment done.
Watch for tire wear monthly. Whey they start to show wear, rotate the tires. When they show wear again, have it aligned. That should provide adequate time for saving the money for an alignment.
To avoid premature wear, an alignment should be performed shortly after installation. Sort of like preventative maintenance against steering linkage and expensive tires.


Or maybe you're just interested in creating a table of all users who have installed 2.1" Bilstein leveling coil-overs and want to help people in the future with how much their truck is altered from the installation.
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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 11:09 AM
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Yes, you'll need to get an alignment done after installing the Bilstein lift. My camber was way off after putting the Bilstein coils and shocks in at the middle position. Good idea to get it re-set after 6months. The coils will settle a bit.
I wouldn't recommend the top clip position on the shock body, it's too much lift. Maxes out the angle of your CV joints and leaves almost zero downward travel on your upper control arms. At least with the Bilstein springs.

Do yourself and your alignment tech a favor and buy some camber bolts for your lower control arms before your put your lift in. They're not expensive. Most auto parts shops can them for your truck in a couple days. Good luck!
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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 11:13 AM
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Depends on the truck. Mine are set to 1.75" and it looks like the tech clearly did not do anything as the before and after numbers are barely different, but within spec. I think the caster was .1 deg different so yea he clearly just re measures it for "after" numbers.

Truck drives fine no abnormal wear.
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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 45Colt
Yes, you'll need to get an alignment done after installing the Bilstein lift. My camber was way off after putting the Bilstein coils and shocks in at the middle position. Good idea to get it re-set after 6months. The coils will settle a bit.
I wouldn't recommend the top clip position on the shock body, it's too much lift. Maxes out the angle of your CV joints and leaves almost zero downward travel on your upper control arms. At least with the Bilstein springs.

Do yourself and your alignment tech a favor and buy some camber bolts for your lower control arms before your put your lift in. They're not expensive. Most auto parts shops can them for your truck in a couple days. Good luck!
Thanks, the most useful and educated response sofar,...I will wait another week or two to let things settle, order camber bolts in the meantime... much appreciated!!!!
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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MagneticLariat
Depends on the truck. Mine are set to 1.75" and it looks like the tech clearly did not do anything as the before and after numbers are barely different, but within spec. I think the caster was .1 deg different so yea he clearly just re measures it for "after" numbers.

Truck drives fine no abnormal wear.
Mine is set at 1.75 as well.... looking at the suspension geometry, when the truck goes up, i can see the potential for toe to move in and as well camber affected..... the question is by how much.... you're response was very helpful
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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 11:41 AM
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I have Bilstein 5100s set at 2.1" currently. My first suspension mod was to add 2" spacers to the OEM struts. I did that at home and then drove the truck in for tires and an alignment. Here's the "before" sheet:



I had 5,659 miles on the truck at this point.

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Old Aug 11, 2020 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaNu1142
I have Bilstein 5100s set at 2.1" currently. My first suspension mod was to add 2" spacers to the OEM struts. I did that at home and then drove the truck in for tires and an alignment. Here's the "before" sheet:


Thanks, makes total logical sense.... you're bringing the chassis higher than the knuckles, therefore pulling the tie-rods inboard = toe in
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