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Old 12-01-2017, 12:53 PM
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Letís be honest. Weíre talking about a $55,000 truck. The difference in tire cost is $30-$50 per corner. $200. Thatís 0.3% of the purchase price and most owners only do that once or twice before trading it in for a new vehicle. If you canít afford that, you canít afford the truck. Itís absolutely ridiculous to influence a purchase decision over an easily replaceable component with entirely negligible effect on total cost of ownership.
On my 2007 it was nearly 100.00 a corner. And purchase price has nothing to do with ongoing maintenance costs. Ongoing maintenance costs are why I no longer drive BMWs. BTW, the Platinum is 65k sticker or around 60k out the door. Your equating purchase price to maintenance costs is an artificial benchmark set by you. I like driving nice vehicles, I don't want or expect them to be expensive to maintain.
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On my 2007 it was nearly 100.00 a corner. And purchase price has nothing to do with ongoing maintenance costs. Ongoing maintenance costs are why I no longer drive BMWs. BTW, the Platinum is 65k sticker or around 60k out the door. Your equating purchase price to maintenance costs is an artificial benchmark set by you. I like driving nice vehicles, I don't want or expect them to be expensive to maintain.
Equating purchase price to maintenance costs is implying that higher sticker price means higher maintenance costs. Thatís completely irrelevant to the discussion here. The higher the sticker price of the truck, the lower the tire cost is in relation to the purchase price.

Letís take a look at this from another angle:

$60,000 / 72 months @ 2% APR = $885/month

If you replace your tires at the 36 month mark - a reasonable estimate for someone not smoking the tires from light to light - youíve spent close to $40,000 in payments and routine maintenance by the time you need to spend a couple hundred bucks more on tires. Who gives a ****? Do you carefully compare MPG ratings when you buy a Ferrari? Compare garbage bag costs when picking what size trash can to put in the kitchen? These costs are entirely meaningless in the context of total cost of ownership. Theyíre even less important relative to getting exactly what you want when spending more money than many people make in a year.
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18s and 20in tires are nearly identical in cost, someone is living in the wrong decade. There are so many vehicles that come stock with 20s now it isnt even funny. Its not 2007 anymore.
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18s and 20in tires are nearly identical in cost, someone is living in the wrong decade. There are so many vehicles that come stock with 20s now it isnt even funny. Its not 2007 anymore.
I don’t think so. I put my last set on in 2014. 18s don’t cost a thousand bucks for a good set of tires. They do on 20 inch wheels. I’m sure you can find a set for 650.00 that will last for 35k miles but that is kind of pointless.

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I don’t think so. I put my last set on in 2014. 18s don’t cost a thousand bucks for a good set of tires. They do on 20 inch wheels. I’m sure you can find a set for 65000 that will last for 35k miles but that is kind of pointless.
You may want to get your numbers straight. KO2’s in stock sizes (read: not oversized) are floating around $1k+ regardless of 18” or 20” wheels. The difference is less than $20 per corner.
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Default If you want to seriously FORSCAN, get a Lariat or higher

I've probably done $2000+ of mods on my 2015 Lariat using Forscan for around $600.

I just added Adaptive Cruise Control and Collision warning for under $500 (can add to XLT 302A)
You can add:
  1. Global windows open/close - front (XLT will support)
  2. auto fold mirrors -Lariat and above only
  3. auto tilt mirrors - Lariat and above only
  4. turn off the double honk (XLT will support)
  5. add hill descent control (XLT will support)
  6. bambi mode for the fog lights (XLT will support)
  7. Turn off the damn double honk (XLT will support)
  8. add the temperatures above your transmission and coolant "gauges" -Lariat and above only
  9. manipulate your DRLs any way you want (XLT will support)
  10. change the Nav so you can manually enter destinations in Nav while driving (can do that on an XLT with Sync 3)

and many others. On my 2015, I activated Navigation for nothing (can't do this on anything above a '15).
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Hi Everyone.

Thank you very much for the great input. This forum is probably the best forum I have ever been a part of for members actually responding, and with good info.

My reasoning for 18 inches is not cost, it is for grip and performance on snow. In my opinion 18 inch tires are better in bad road conditions. Yes I can buy a platinum and instantly change the wheels and tires, and maybe that's what I will do.

As far as the raptor vs. the platunum. As much as I love the looks of the raptor, that's about where it stops. Yes there are dealers 8-12 hours away from me willing to sell a raptor at msrp, but when you have a trade involved that's a long way to drive to fight with a dealer over your trade value, and have them try to low ball your trade by $ 5000.00 so they can feel like they actually sold the raptor for $ 5000.00 over msrp. That's time I don't have to play games. The other factor is up here in the northeast even our off road area's are not favorable to a raptor, and I do a lot of hunting as well.

And again up here in the northeast dealers just will not budge on selling for over MSRP, and that's not something I am willing to do. If you take a average of a $ 6500.00 discount on a platinum and you take a average of paying $ 5000.00 over msrp on a raptor, the spread between the two is $ 15,000.00 more after trade for a raptor. Even though a raptor has better resale value , you will never recover after paying $ 15,000.00 more a raptor. I've done the numbers and when it comes time to trade 3-5 years you are better off in a platinum, because of the dealer markup on a raptor.
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Too bad you can't get a trimmed down Raptor.....
You can, there is the base 800A that has cloth seats and small screen on the center stack, It's still $50K+ though.

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The other issue I have been hearing is that a 5.0 l v-8 coyote with 3.73 geArs will outperform a ecoboost with 3.55 geArs. Is this true ?
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You can, there is the base 800A that has cloth seats and small screen on the center stack, It's still $50K+ though.

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I'd much rather have a platinum than a stripped down raptor.
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