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Old 12-01-2018, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by isthatahemi
All the things mentioned are annoying, but focusing on it and whipping oneself into a froth over it doesn't make it more than it is.
My truck like everyone else rolled off a mass production line, built 10 times better than anything ford made 15 years ago. It does some annoying **** and makes noises. I'm too busy to let it ruin my day.

That said, when I drop it off to be worked on I could use a little less dealer BS.
Ok. I would think that a mass assembly line, and parts QC prior to assembly, from all manufacturers involved, would produce a much better product. I mean, the assembly line is based on people working at stations. These people are doing the same thing all day, every day. The tools they use are specialized tools that help install large components and torque them to spec, all at the same time. Each station is responsible for only one or two things, so not hooking up a sun roof drain tube should never happen. Using the excuse that these are assembly line, mass produced products doesn't hold much water. In 2018, with 100 years of assembly line experience, Ford should have this mastered and every vehicle should be near perfect with minimal problems, only due to a part failing. However, in reality, they rush something new to market that they aren't prepared for.
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Default It’s mostly engineering issues...

You clearly missed my point. If you think lazy auto-workers are going to go out of your way to ensure quality, well, you will in many occasions be mistaken. It sounds like you e had some bad luck. In my experience there’s a story behind most things that appear as assembly issues, much of the time there was re-work involved, and the original build was not re-assembled correctly. That said, ford builds a different truck every couple years, and that is constant change.

Much of the complaints in this thread are not so much productions issues as the calibrations are not done correctly. Too many changes too often. I don’t think I’ve driven a vehicle that needed a tune as badly as my 2018. I just returned the 2016 to stock to break in some new engine parts, and it blows me away how much smoother and quieter the power train is.

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Originally Posted by kds_5280
Masitile, hope you don't think I was trying to argue with you. I respect your points and I think you're pretty spot on. All of my schooling and work experience has pounded good customer service practices and ethical business decisions into my brain. I don't think Ford has followed the morals and business practices that I agree with, which is the reason the "it's normal" stuff bothers me to the point of blowing off steam through my keyboard here. Although I will say that with a company as large as Ford and the business they are in, it would be impossible to give every customer a positive experience.

Also, there is so much disagreement on the forums about these problems because we all have different opinions, perceptions, and approaches to them. For example, the rattle, the gear change squeal, and the poor shifting in the city are my truck's main issues and they drive me up the wall. I simply can't live with it (because I'm stupid obsessive about certain features of my truck), but some guys are totally ok with it as long as it doesn't seem to be hurting the truck or they believe it will be resolved in the future. I would take a leaking moonroof over the rattle any day, but some people would say the opposite. In fact I had a small leak in the roof of my 04 and forgot about it so frequently that I never even got it fixed...but my rather quiet cam phaser knock drove me absolutely crazy.

Regarding the brands, I've always been a Ford lover and I can't see owning a different brand as long as I'm in a truck. I've always had mediocre experiences with Ford dealers and their service departments, but it hasn't driven me away from the brand. And I don't think my customer service experiences would be much better with any other brand. My parents both drive BMWs. High priced, great cars with few problems but every time my dad visits the dealer for service or a trade-in they always find a way to p*ss him off.
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i hear ya both. I took mine in and they said "no no no its the direct injection and thats how its supposed to me. I rolled my eyes and played the youtube vid (of the guy driving down the street, whoever that was thank you) to the service guy. His tone changed immediately and he became a cool guy instantly. lol., he said, holy **** now I know what you mean.
Not this one was it? (this is my truck, same issue)
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Not this one was it? (this is my truck, same issue)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bODpe739GoE&t=29s
Yeah, mine definitely does that. That is the clearest video of this sound behavior I have seen. Now if someone could get one that good for the whistling transmission, we'd be in business.
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Yeah, mine definitely does that. That is the clearest video of this sound behavior I have seen. Now if someone could get one that good for the whistling transmission, we'd be in business.
I'm still not sure if it's an assembly line issue or a Vendor problem. Either way I can understand how that noise would drive someone (including myself) off the rails!
After hearing better examples of that noise, I was even more shocked when I read the TSB was a software fix rather than a mechanical one...

I certainly consider myself fortunate that mine doesn't have that issue! Not even a quiet version of that rattle.
So now in this day and age how can one vehicle differ so much..?
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Default TSB 182354 does not work

Originally Posted by masitile
I'm still not sure if it's an assembly line issue or a Vendor problem. Either way I can understand how that noise would drive someone (including myself) off the rails!
After hearing better examples of that noise, I was even more shocked when I read the TSB was a software fix rather than a mechanical one...

I certainly consider myself fortunate that mine doesn't have that issue! Not even a quiet version of that rattle.
So now in this day and age how can one vehicle differ so much..?
so the TSB For this issue does NOT work. I had it done on December 5th and the noise went away for 1 day and came back louder than before on December 7th. So frustrated at this point
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Originally Posted by xrlizard
Yeah, mine definitely does that. That is the clearest video of this sound behavior I have seen. Now if someone could get one that good for the whistling transmission, we'd be in business.
Originally Posted by WildernessLVR
Spot-on to many of those that went for a brand new model year. After licking the sugar from the icing of the lemon cake the sour truth came after.... Headaches abound by now
That's something that applies to Ford as well unfortunately.
I hear the pain of many here. Remember this 5.0 + 10Sp is a first year powertrain too.
We are stuck on it. Some are crying as others are praying!
patience ? Give me a break. My truck has been doing this since 2000 km. I’m now at 11 000 still with no fix after being to the dealership 6 times. Was hopeful when the TSB came out addressing the ratcheting issue. But the TSB does NOT WORK. You think ford would make sure the fix works before they release it ? Worst customer service in have ever experienced !
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Originally Posted by jaydobbs213
Not this one was it? (this is my truck, same issue)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bODpe739GoE&t=29s
Originally Posted by xrlizard
Yeah, mine definitely does that. That is the clearest video of this sound behavior I have seen.
My goodness, that's a racket. I hope for everybody's sake that it's just a fan blade making contact with the fan shroud (or a zip tie, etc.).
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The sound is only produced under certain throttle conditions. I find it annoying, but without knowing exactly what causes it, there is no way to know if it is a problem that may affect reliability, or just an annoyance. I will say, I have only encountered it a few times, as I do not normally work the gas pedal in the manner that creates the sound, which for my truck, is giving it a little gas at low rpm and then letting off abruptly. Under normal operation, where I am easing my foot on and off the pedal, it isn't happening.


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