2015 Payload
Also...there is little incentive to eat away at super duty sales.
Link to 2015 order guide?
If all they did was lighten the pickup by 700lb, then you should be able to carry 700lb more. So if your payload was 1500lb, it should now be 2200lb.
Since we have discovered that our trailer weight is limited by GCWR and payload with payload coming in first many times, this shoujd be good news.
The 2.7 is said to have an 8,800lb towing capacity. An 8,800lb trailer with 12% on the tongue will use 1,056lb of payload plus ~100lb for the WDH. That's 1,156lb total payload.
If you have 2200 to start with, you are left with 2200-1156=1,044lb for people, dogs, firewood/ATV, etc.
If all they did was lighten the pickup by 700lb, then you should be able to carry 700lb more. So if your payload was 1500lb, it should now be 2200lb.
Since we have discovered that our trailer weight is limited by GCWR and payload with payload coming in first many times, this shoujd be good news.
The 2.7 is said to have an 8,800lb towing capacity. An 8,800lb trailer with 12% on the tongue will use 1,056lb of payload plus ~100lb for the WDH. That's 1,156lb total payload.
If you have 2200 to start with, you are left with 2200-1156=1,044lb for people, dogs, firewood/ATV, etc.
As mentioned, the order guide (see the 2015 F150 section of this forum, there's a topic with a link to it) has the payload and GVWR of the 2.7 EcoB. But not the 5L or 3.5L EcoB yet.
The payloads are similar to what we see now in 2014. GVWRs are lower.
So it does look like the rest of the truck has been lightened as well.
There is also no 7 lug wheels displayed for the HD Payload option, just 6 lug, so apparently the 4800# axle is gone from the HD Payload, replaced with ... the 9.5" rear end referred to in the order guide. No idea what the rear GAWR might be, but hopefully it will be more than the 4050# 6 lug axle n my truck.
We'll see when the actual numbers come out.
The payloads are similar to what we see now in 2014. GVWRs are lower.
So it does look like the rest of the truck has been lightened as well.
There is also no 7 lug wheels displayed for the HD Payload option, just 6 lug, so apparently the 4800# axle is gone from the HD Payload, replaced with ... the 9.5" rear end referred to in the order guide. No idea what the rear GAWR might be, but hopefully it will be more than the 4050# 6 lug axle n my truck.
We'll see when the actual numbers come out.
Speaking of Payloads, I've been researching the Heavy-Duty Payload Package:
Heavy-Duty Payload Package (622): Comes with the 2.7L Ecoboost, 3:73 axle, 9.75 gearset, mechanical parking brake, boosts payload over 2000 lbs. (actual payload not available yet).
Heavy-Duty Payload Package (627): requires 5.0L or 3.5L Ecoboost, comes with 3:73 axle, 9.75 gearset, LT tires, upgraded springs, auxiliary transmission oil cooler, and special wheels (pictures show 6-lug).
I'd love to get the HD Payload with the big axle, however, it's only available on the XL, and XLT with Base 300A or Mid 301A Equipment Groups, and the Lariat Base 500A Equipment Group. I wanted some other options that are only available on the XLT Luxury 302A or Lariat Luxury 502A, so I guess I can't get the Heavy-Duty Payload.
The Max Trailer Tow Package includes the auxiliary transmission oil cooler so I guess that will have to do.
I can only guess that Ford doesn't want the heavy springs on a luxury truck. I can't really think of any other reasons. Anybody else have any inside info on this? I know you'll definitely have speculative comments, so let's hear it.
Heavy-Duty Payload Package (622): Comes with the 2.7L Ecoboost, 3:73 axle, 9.75 gearset, mechanical parking brake, boosts payload over 2000 lbs. (actual payload not available yet).
Heavy-Duty Payload Package (627): requires 5.0L or 3.5L Ecoboost, comes with 3:73 axle, 9.75 gearset, LT tires, upgraded springs, auxiliary transmission oil cooler, and special wheels (pictures show 6-lug).
I'd love to get the HD Payload with the big axle, however, it's only available on the XL, and XLT with Base 300A or Mid 301A Equipment Groups, and the Lariat Base 500A Equipment Group. I wanted some other options that are only available on the XLT Luxury 302A or Lariat Luxury 502A, so I guess I can't get the Heavy-Duty Payload.
The Max Trailer Tow Package includes the auxiliary transmission oil cooler so I guess that will have to do.
I can only guess that Ford doesn't want the heavy springs on a luxury truck. I can't really think of any other reasons. Anybody else have any inside info on this? I know you'll definitely have speculative comments, so let's hear it.
I don't know if this helps anyone, when I ordered, the dealer gave me a "Packaging Information Guide", basically a sales brochure geared towards informing the sales rep about the truck's features. It says the 2.7 Ecoboost Payload Package (622) "boosts payload to over 2000 pounds. Actual Payload number not available at time of publication."
Also, I ordered a 145" wheelbase 4x4 Lariat Supercrew with the 3.5 Ecoboost (99G) and the the max trailer tow package (53C). On the order sheet, below the axle rating (3.55) it says 7000# GVWR Package. Several lines after, it lists the Max trailer tow package, but no line indicating an increased GVWR.
Also, I ordered a 145" wheelbase 4x4 Lariat Supercrew with the 3.5 Ecoboost (99G) and the the max trailer tow package (53C). On the order sheet, below the axle rating (3.55) it says 7000# GVWR Package. Several lines after, it lists the Max trailer tow package, but no line indicating an increased GVWR.
I don't know if this helps anyone, when I ordered, the dealer gave me a "Packaging Information Guide", basically a sales brochure geared towards informing the sales rep about the truck's features. It says the 2.7 Ecoboost Payload Package (622) "boosts payload to over 2000 pounds. Actual Payload number not available at time of publication."
Also, I ordered a 145" wheelbase 4x4 Lariat Supercrew with the 3.5 Ecoboost (99G) and the the max trailer tow package (53C). On the order sheet, below the axle rating (3.55) it says 7000# GVWR Package. Several lines after, it lists the Max trailer tow package, but no line indicating an increased GVWR.
Also, I ordered a 145" wheelbase 4x4 Lariat Supercrew with the 3.5 Ecoboost (99G) and the the max trailer tow package (53C). On the order sheet, below the axle rating (3.55) it says 7000# GVWR Package. Several lines after, it lists the Max trailer tow package, but no line indicating an increased GVWR.
Because of the options, your Lariat's payload will probably be less than 1900#.
It's 325 horsepower, and 375 lb.-ft. of torque. Which is virtually the same specifications as the 5.4L that was offered with a HD Payload option just four short years ago.
Yeah and how well did the 5.4 do when people started to try and max out payload/tow capacity? I know how the 5.4 handled my boat vs how the 5.0 handles it. There's a lot of difference. Plus the 2.7 is a tiny V6. It's going to be rich when people start hauling and towing with it. Probably wise to stick with hauling the occasional couch and the weekly groceries.
Last edited by Daytoman; Aug 19, 2014 at 07:08 AM.
It is not always about performance, sometimes it is about marketing and/or pushing people who want certain things into a higher priced truck (more profit).





