No Power/Bogging Down
Lol, YM56.
No, I didn't leave it that way. Problem fixed, code cleared, but still bogging. Stock gap is .044 for my truck and I will pick up a larger coil for this tune-up. Can't find Ford 9mm Racing wires locally, but can get Motorcraft 8.5mm. Better off to order online and get the custom set I've seen in other threads? Any suggestions/recommendations? Mechanic pulled a no-show, so fuel issue unresolved.
Hopefully today!
No, I didn't leave it that way. Problem fixed, code cleared, but still bogging. Stock gap is .044 for my truck and I will pick up a larger coil for this tune-up. Can't find Ford 9mm Racing wires locally, but can get Motorcraft 8.5mm. Better off to order online and get the custom set I've seen in other threads? Any suggestions/recommendations? Mechanic pulled a no-show, so fuel issue unresolved.
Hopefully today!
MSD 8.5 Superconductor Wires are the best wires & last the longest. Coil should be at least 48K & lowest Ohm rating available. After the coil upgrade w/ brass cap & rotor, you can do .054 easy for gap. Motorcraft Nic plate Coppercores. They require less Ohm resistance to be overcome in order to fire, than their Platinum counterparts. Then there's base time advance to mod, but deal w/ Fuel issue first before you do anything else. These is all performance upgrades & right now your engine isn't up to them at the moment.
Last edited by ymeski56; Apr 1, 2010 at 12:57 PM.
Fuel issue resolved. Rear tank was leaking from pump o-ring. Fixed. 10mpg never felt so good!!!
Did the Seafoam yesterday: Definitely smoked up the neighborhood, but very little improvement in performance. With the running condition as it is, this result didn't surprise me.
As for the exhaust: Rear cat was removed b4 I got the truck and initial estimates were $250-$400 to replace from cherry bombs back??? WTF? I think it's shot, but ASSUMING cat isn't plugged I'm hoping I can just put new bombs or flowmaster, end it there for now and move on to tune up. (How do you check if cat is plugged? Exhaust still pulses. Exhaust guy tapped on it and said it "seems fine"??) Getting 2nd estimate today.
Picking up 48k coil, plugs, brass cap and rotor today. Moto 8.5 wires in hand. Want to resolve exhaust issue b4 tune up, but that will be hard if I have parts in hand. My question is: I can't find anyone with a timing light and honestly have never used one and don't know how. That being said, I've gotta ask a stupid question: Can I just advance timing until detonation and back it off or is the timing light essential? Would like to do the bump to 13 and gap to .54 to see if I can improve MPG, but I'd like to do it right.
Did the Seafoam yesterday: Definitely smoked up the neighborhood, but very little improvement in performance. With the running condition as it is, this result didn't surprise me.
As for the exhaust: Rear cat was removed b4 I got the truck and initial estimates were $250-$400 to replace from cherry bombs back??? WTF? I think it's shot, but ASSUMING cat isn't plugged I'm hoping I can just put new bombs or flowmaster, end it there for now and move on to tune up. (How do you check if cat is plugged? Exhaust still pulses. Exhaust guy tapped on it and said it "seems fine"??) Getting 2nd estimate today.
Picking up 48k coil, plugs, brass cap and rotor today. Moto 8.5 wires in hand. Want to resolve exhaust issue b4 tune up, but that will be hard if I have parts in hand. My question is: I can't find anyone with a timing light and honestly have never used one and don't know how. That being said, I've gotta ask a stupid question: Can I just advance timing until detonation and back it off or is the timing light essential? Would like to do the bump to 13 and gap to .54 to see if I can improve MPG, but I'd like to do it right.
Bit the bullet and had the exhaust done. Kept the duals, but put two mufflers and tips. HUGE improvement in pick up and response. Also re-routed wires as per diagram and installed new looms. 85% back to normal. Also, 11.4 MPG town miles only last two tankfuls. Not bad for this truck.
Clock spring this afternoon. Don't notice in the winter, but miss CC now. Also, you'd be surprised how handy a horn is until you're without!
Y56, I'm still planning the timing bump you suggested. Have MSD 8.5 wires, brass cap. Can't find Moto coppercores locally or a brass rotor. Autolites everywhere and that's what I usually run. Most places only have one 48K coil and they have no clue how many Ohms, so I haven't purchased coil yet. Is there any place online you/or anyone recommend to get these items in a kit?
Thanks again.
Clock spring this afternoon. Don't notice in the winter, but miss CC now. Also, you'd be surprised how handy a horn is until you're without!
Y56, I'm still planning the timing bump you suggested. Have MSD 8.5 wires, brass cap. Can't find Moto coppercores locally or a brass rotor. Autolites everywhere and that's what I usually run. Most places only have one 48K coil and they have no clue how many Ohms, so I haven't purchased coil yet. Is there any place online you/or anyone recommend to get these items in a kit?
Thanks again.
Fuel issue resolved. Rear tank was leaking from pump o-ring. Fixed. 10mpg never felt so good!!!
Did the Seafoam yesterday: Definitely smoked up the neighborhood, but very little improvement in performance. With the running condition as it is, this result didn't surprise me.
The things I notice is a smoother Idle & a little better throttle response, but it can make a difference as to how far you further advance w/o ping.
As for the exhaust: Rear cat was removed b4 I got the truck and initial estimates were $250-$400 to replace from cherry bombs back??? WTF? I think it's shot, but ASSUMING cat isn't plugged I'm hoping I can just put new bombs or flowmaster, end it there for now and move on to tune up. (How do you check if cat is plugged? Exhaust still pulses. Exhaust guy tapped on it and said it "seems fine"??) Getting 2nd estimate today. On F-150's replacing both Cat's w/ a single hi-capacity Cat is allowed. I think I paid around $300 for the Cat & a cherry bomb including installation. Make sure they go up in size at the Y if you go that way. I believe they check backpressure at the 02 bunghole ahead of the Cat. dr bowtie said it only takes 3 psi to produce backpressure.
Picking up 48k coil, plugs, brass cap and rotor today. Moto 8.5 wires in hand. Want to resolve exhaust issue b4 tune up, but that will be hard if I have parts in hand. My question is: I can't find anyone with a timing light and honestly have never used one and don't know how. That being said, I've gotta ask a stupid question: Can I just advance timing until detonation and back it off or is the timing light essential? Would like to do the bump to 13 and gap to .54 to see if I can improve MPG, but I'd like to do it right.
Did the Seafoam yesterday: Definitely smoked up the neighborhood, but very little improvement in performance. With the running condition as it is, this result didn't surprise me.
The things I notice is a smoother Idle & a little better throttle response, but it can make a difference as to how far you further advance w/o ping.
As for the exhaust: Rear cat was removed b4 I got the truck and initial estimates were $250-$400 to replace from cherry bombs back??? WTF? I think it's shot, but ASSUMING cat isn't plugged I'm hoping I can just put new bombs or flowmaster, end it there for now and move on to tune up. (How do you check if cat is plugged? Exhaust still pulses. Exhaust guy tapped on it and said it "seems fine"??) Getting 2nd estimate today. On F-150's replacing both Cat's w/ a single hi-capacity Cat is allowed. I think I paid around $300 for the Cat & a cherry bomb including installation. Make sure they go up in size at the Y if you go that way. I believe they check backpressure at the 02 bunghole ahead of the Cat. dr bowtie said it only takes 3 psi to produce backpressure.
Picking up 48k coil, plugs, brass cap and rotor today. Moto 8.5 wires in hand. Want to resolve exhaust issue b4 tune up, but that will be hard if I have parts in hand. My question is: I can't find anyone with a timing light and honestly have never used one and don't know how. That being said, I've gotta ask a stupid question: Can I just advance timing until detonation and back it off or is the timing light essential? Would like to do the bump to 13 and gap to .54 to see if I can improve MPG, but I'd like to do it right.
Last edited by ymeski56; Apr 13, 2010 at 02:18 PM.
Bit the bullet and had the exhaust done. Kept the duals, but put two mufflers and tips. HUGE improvement in pick up and response. Also re-routed wires as per diagram and installed new looms. 85% back to normal. Also, 11.4 MPG town miles only last two tankfuls. Not bad for this truck.
Clock spring this afternoon. Don't notice in the winter, but miss CC now. Also, you'd be surprised how handy a horn is until you're without!
Y56, I'm still planning the timing bump you suggested. Have MSD 8.5 wires, brass cap. Can't find Moto coppercores locally or a brass rotor. Autolites everywhere and that's what I usually run. Most places only have one 48K coil and they have no clue how many Ohms, so I haven't purchased coil yet. Is there any place online you/or anyone recommend to get these items in a kit?
Thanks again.
Clock spring this afternoon. Don't notice in the winter, but miss CC now. Also, you'd be surprised how handy a horn is until you're without!
Y56, I'm still planning the timing bump you suggested. Have MSD 8.5 wires, brass cap. Can't find Moto coppercores locally or a brass rotor. Autolites everywhere and that's what I usually run. Most places only have one 48K coil and they have no clue how many Ohms, so I haven't purchased coil yet. Is there any place online you/or anyone recommend to get these items in a kit?
Thanks again.
Last edited by ymeski56; Apr 13, 2010 at 02:28 PM.
Great info on responses, as usual.
Moto plugs are a dealer only. I'll pick them up tomorrow.
If I understood you correctly, I can do the parts install with the .55 gap in my garage and, assuming I can't find a timing light and teacher to be there, bring it to a "friendly mechanic" and have it timed and advanced?
Have been spray'n the adjustment bolt occasionally since first reading your post awhile back.
Anxious to try this.
Moto plugs are a dealer only. I'll pick them up tomorrow.
If I understood you correctly, I can do the parts install with the .55 gap in my garage and, assuming I can't find a timing light and teacher to be there, bring it to a "friendly mechanic" and have it timed and advanced?
Have been spray'n the adjustment bolt occasionally since first reading your post awhile back.
Picked up Moto plugs yesterday. Picking up coil after lunch. Still no luck finding timing light/someone to help.
Can I install the parts and gap to .054 in my garage, then drive to a "friendly mechanic" and have it timed and do the bump there?
Can I install the parts and gap to .054 in my garage, then drive to a "friendly mechanic" and have it timed and do the bump there?
Note: Personally, I desludged my engine oil w/ Seafoam & switched to synthetic first. Also, flushed coolant system & went to distilled water & antifreeze. If your running a hair warm, I went to a 180F thermostat, but you can add a bottle of "Water Wetter" to your coolant system in the mean time. that will take you down about 12F And stabilizes your temp. No active error codes or Vac leaks! 16 BTDC is the sweet spot, but 14 BTDC is a respectable place to start.
Last edited by ymeski56; Apr 15, 2010 at 12:42 PM.


