Topic Sponsor
1987 - 1996 F150 Still running strong! Talk about your 8th and 9th generation Ford F150 trucks.

Ford's Better Idea

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 15, 2019 | 10:02 PM
  #1  
RacerX69's Avatar
Thread Starter
Mr. Fixit
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 113
Likes: 52
From: The Great Pacific Northwet
Default Ford's Better Idea

What the heck? The mounting assembly for the A/C compressor and power steering pump has an ear with a hole that fits over one of the bolts that holds the water pump to the cylinder block. It doesn't attach there, it only bolts into 3 holes in the left cylinder head. I see no reason for it, there isn't any threads on the extension of the bolt on the water pump, the hole in the A/C compressor and power steering pump mount doesn't even touch the bolt or seat on the head of the bolt.

It just doesn't make any sense.



Reply
Old Sep 15, 2019 | 11:49 PM
  #2  
Steve83's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,256
Likes: 1,770
From: Memphis, TN, Earth, Milky Way
Default

...or maybe you just don't understand it.


Suppose you were assembling that engine on an assembly line. Suppose the compressor/PS pump arrived attached to that bracket, and were suspended above the line, and you needed to pull them down and hang them on the engine. Wouldn't your job be a LOT easier & quicker if there was some way of hand-aligning them so they'd stay close to where you needed to start the first bolt? And so that they'd stay aligned if you tightened that bolt before starting the others?

Not everything is designed for how it works 30 years later - some things are designed to make it easier to build, transport, or assemble. And that's why Ford has led the automotive industry since the industry's infancy.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2019 | 03:50 AM
  #3  
RacerX69's Avatar
Thread Starter
Mr. Fixit
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 113
Likes: 52
From: The Great Pacific Northwet
Default

Originally Posted by Steve83

Not everything is designed for how it works 30 years later - some things are designed to make it easier to build, transport, or assemble. .
Well it sure makes it a pain in the *** to change out the water pump.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2019 | 06:16 AM
  #4  
raski's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 3,702
Likes: 766
From: Parts Unknown
Default

For the amount of time you took to describe it, you would have gotten the a/c out of the way. You think yours is bad, go back the the V8's of the 70's. There were more brackets attached to the water pump fasteners than yours.This stuff has been going on for decades, I had to deal with it myself. Be thankful you don't have one of those new engines which the engineers decided to put the water pump inside the engine and drive it off the timing chain.

Last edited by raski; Sep 16, 2019 at 06:25 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2019 | 07:31 AM
  #5  
DarrinT04's Avatar
Senior Member
Supporting Member

5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 6,693
Likes: 1,222
From: Maysville KY
Default

Originally Posted by raski
For the amount of time you took to describe it, you would have gotten the a/c out of the way. You think yours is bad, go back the the V8's of the 70's. There were more brackets attached to the water pump fasteners than yours.This stuff has been going on for decades, I had to deal with it myself. Be thankful you don't have one of those new engines which the engineers decided to put the water pump inside the engine and drive it off the timing chain.
Absolutely. That's kind of ridiculous I think
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2019 | 09:19 AM
  #6  
BLDTruth's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 2,918
Likes: 489
From: Oregon
Default

Originally Posted by RacerX69
Well it sure makes it a pain in the *** to change out the water pump.
Just remove the three bolts holding the bracket on and slide it off of the stud and leave it off to the side. That's what I did when I changed my pump a few months ago. And then I replaced all of the studs with standard bolts. Bunch of them broke upon removal anyways.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2019 | 09:21 AM
  #7  
Steve83's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,256
Likes: 1,770
From: Memphis, TN, Earth, Milky Way
Default

Originally Posted by RacerX69
Well it sure makes it a pain in the *** to change out the water pump.
3 whole additional bolts? That don't rust or get covered in grime? Wow...

Pay attention to the locations of the WP bolts as you take them out.

(phone app link)
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2019 | 09:25 AM
  #8  
Stu Cazzo's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,696
Likes: 3,086
Default

Originally Posted by RacerX69
Well it sure makes it a pain in the *** to change out the water pump.
Can't you just wind two nuts onto the threaded bolt (stud) and unscrew it from the block?
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2019 | 09:28 AM
  #9  
BLDTruth's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 2,918
Likes: 489
From: Oregon
Default

Originally Posted by Stu Cazzo
Can't you just wind two nuts onto the threaded bolt (stud) and unscrew it from the block?
The bracket sits on top of the stud. It has to slide off of the stud first for the stud to come out. Look at the pic in the first post again.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2019 | 01:11 PM
  #10  
RacerX69's Avatar
Thread Starter
Mr. Fixit
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 113
Likes: 52
From: The Great Pacific Northwet
Default

Originally Posted by Stu Cazzo
Can't you just wind two nuts onto the threaded bolt (stud) and unscrew it from the block?
There aren’ t any threads on the part that projects through the compressor/pump bracket.

and the bracket has to come off before a wrench can be placed on the bolt.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:54 PM.