Engine Knock?
Originally Posted by dr_bowtie
on 2 wheel drive you do not have to remove the upper manifold... on 4 wheel drive you MUST take the upper manifold off or pull the engine... it will not come out as the drop member for the front axle is in the way...I've done both
Ok maybe this is stupid but is there any way to backflush the system? Any solvents I could try if it may be something as simple as crud plugged up somewhere? Doubt it...but if possible, worth a shot?
yea oil galleries and blow them out with compressed air.
any way you could use a cell phone and record a video of the knock close to where its coming from and post it? from cold start up for a few minutes....?
any way you could use a cell phone and record a video of the knock close to where its coming from and post it? from cold start up for a few minutes....?
Originally Posted by dr_bowtie
yea oil galleries and blow them out with compressed air.
any way you could use a cell phone and record a video of the knock close to where its coming from and post it? from cold start up for a few minutes....?
any way you could use a cell phone and record a video of the knock close to where its coming from and post it? from cold start up for a few minutes....?
you know what wait a minute.....
are you sure this isnt an exhaust leak at the manifold?
when a manifold gasket lets loose or the EGR pipe cracks at the exhaust it can sound like a rod till it gets warm and seals.... you might start it cold and run your hand around and try to feel the exhaust...
OR
take a 12 inch piece of Brake line and shove the tip in a rubber hose about 2-3 feet long and use that as a Stethoscope to try and locate the noise...
I'd check around the manifold and the doughnut gasket.... and EGR and AIR pipe fittings....
I had an truck come in once with a knock owner swore it was a rod hammering... all it ended up being was one of the AIR tubes cracked.... I JB-Welded it and knock was gone
I guess maybe its hard to tell without hearing it... a single knock can be rods/mains, chain or exhaust... multiple knocks/rattling can be low oil or starved oil... what does it sound like to you?
are you sure this isnt an exhaust leak at the manifold?
when a manifold gasket lets loose or the EGR pipe cracks at the exhaust it can sound like a rod till it gets warm and seals.... you might start it cold and run your hand around and try to feel the exhaust...
OR
take a 12 inch piece of Brake line and shove the tip in a rubber hose about 2-3 feet long and use that as a Stethoscope to try and locate the noise...
I'd check around the manifold and the doughnut gasket.... and EGR and AIR pipe fittings....
I had an truck come in once with a knock owner swore it was a rod hammering... all it ended up being was one of the AIR tubes cracked.... I JB-Welded it and knock was gone
I guess maybe its hard to tell without hearing it... a single knock can be rods/mains, chain or exhaust... multiple knocks/rattling can be low oil or starved oil... what does it sound like to you?
Last edited by dr_bowtie; Jul 27, 2012 at 11:57 AM.
Originally Posted by dr_bowtie
you know what wait a minute.....
are you sure this isnt an exhaust leak at the manifold?
when a manifold gasket lets loose or the EGR pipe cracks at the exhaust it can sound like a rod till it gets warm and seals.... you might start it cold and run your hand around and try to feel the exhaust...
OR
take a 12 inch piece of Brake line and shove the tip in a rubber hose about 2-3 feet long and use that as a Stethoscope to try and locate the noise...
I'd check around the manifold and the doughnut gasket.... and EGR and AIR pipe fittings....
I had an truck come in once with a knock owner swore it was a rod hammering... all it ended up being was one of the AIR tubes cracked.... I JB-Welded it and knock was gone
I guess maybe its hard to tell without hearing it... a single knock can be rods/mains, chain or exhaust... multiple knocks/rattling can be low oil or starved oil... what does it sound like to you?
are you sure this isnt an exhaust leak at the manifold?
when a manifold gasket lets loose or the EGR pipe cracks at the exhaust it can sound like a rod till it gets warm and seals.... you might start it cold and run your hand around and try to feel the exhaust...
OR
take a 12 inch piece of Brake line and shove the tip in a rubber hose about 2-3 feet long and use that as a Stethoscope to try and locate the noise...
I'd check around the manifold and the doughnut gasket.... and EGR and AIR pipe fittings....
I had an truck come in once with a knock owner swore it was a rod hammering... all it ended up being was one of the AIR tubes cracked.... I JB-Welded it and knock was gone
I guess maybe its hard to tell without hearing it... a single knock can be rods/mains, chain or exhaust... multiple knocks/rattling can be low oil or starved oil... what does it sound like to you?
Originally Posted by dr_bowtie
well get under there and investigate a whole bunch... exhaust is an easy fix... cap off the EGR tube ends for now for a temp check....
DO NOT use any flush on the engine...
If you can put it in drive and work the throttle to light to full throttle and not reproduce the knock at any variation I would be strongly inclined to say the bearings are fine... that will also pull allthe chain slack out too...
I am wondering if you have a manifold gasket sealing issue or a cracked manifold... but like I said if you are 100% sure its coming from the pan? you would hear it on both sides of the pan... hearing a knock on one side leads me to believe exhaust and the noise is bouncing off
If you can put it in drive and work the throttle to light to full throttle and not reproduce the knock at any variation I would be strongly inclined to say the bearings are fine... that will also pull allthe chain slack out too...
I am wondering if you have a manifold gasket sealing issue or a cracked manifold... but like I said if you are 100% sure its coming from the pan? you would hear it on both sides of the pan... hearing a knock on one side leads me to believe exhaust and the noise is bouncing off

