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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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Question 4X4 Conversion

I have a 2wd and lately I've been kicking myself in the butt for not getting a 4X4 and me and my cousin are gonna try and do a 4x4 conversion on my truck. Im in highschool so buyin a 4wd truck is out of the question right now.

Has anyone done this and if so what do i need off of a 4wd truck and how hard was it? Thanks
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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Too bad you're so far away...I'd just swap you mine.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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Disclaimer: Its almost always cheaper to sell the 2wd, scrounge up some extra money and buy a 4x4 instead. Its definately always quicker.

That said, you will need transmission, transfer case, both drive shafts, front suspension, front axle complete out to the brakes, steering linkage (usually), transfer case shifter/controls, possible wiring harness and GEM changes and possibly transmission and front frame cross members. Not all of these parts bolt in, some are rivited and require welding to replace (cross members).

Your best bet is to get a donor truck with decent drive train / crap body and change out the parts one at a time doing a side by side comparison. Inspect the parts as you go and replace anything worn or damaged (most likely seals, bushings, u-joints, and shocks; maybe springs.) You could also go the other way and swap your trucks body onto the donor truck if the frame, wiring, brakes, and such are good.

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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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You could get lucky like me and have a drunk driver total your truck for you and then use the money from the insurance to get what you want.



94 F150 4x4 5.8 with 98k miles.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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Use the search feature...I can't count on two hands how many times this has been asked and how much of the same information has been spewed.
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BigIrish
Disclaimer: Its almost always cheaper to sell the 2wd, scrounge up some extra money and buy a 4x4 instead. Its definately always quicker.

That said, you will need transmission, transfer case, both drive shafts, front suspension, front axle complete out to the brakes, steering linkage (usually), transfer case shifter/controls, possible wiring harness and GEM changes and possibly transmission and front frame cross members. Not all of these parts bolt in, some are rivited and require welding to replace (cross members).

Your best bet is to get a donor truck with decent drive train / crap body and change out the parts one at a time doing a side by side comparison. Inspect the parts as you go and replace anything worn or damaged (most likely seals, bushings, u-joints, and shocks; maybe springs.) You could also go the other way and swap your trucks body onto the donor truck if the frame, wiring, brakes, and such are good.
someone on another thread said the trans should be the same or something so i was just gonna check before i went and swapped the trans
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 02:40 AM
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No, the trans is not the same. The 4wd transmissions use a shorter output shaft than the 2wd's. To change the output shaft, the whole trans will have to be pulled apart. Better and much easier to find a 4wd trans.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 03:23 AM
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this has been done a MILLION times...doner truck is the way to go.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by flareside_thunder
No, the trans is not the same. The 4wd transmissions use a shorter output shaft than the 2wd's. To change the output shaft, the whole trans will have to be pulled apart. Better and much easier to find a 4wd trans.
Exactly correct. You also have to change to the 4x4 tail housing that has provisions for a t-case bolting onto the end. Some transmissions are designed so that its a quick job if you have a donor trans with the correct output shaft and housing by unbolting the housing and pulling the shaft out. Others, you have to get the output shaft out through the front of the case by disassembling the entire damn thing.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BigIrish
Exactly correct. You also have to change to the 4x4 tail housing that has provisions for a t-case bolting onto the end. Some transmissions are designed so that its a quick job if you have a donor trans with the correct output shaft and housing by unbolting the housing and pulling the shaft out. Others, you have to get the output shaft out through the front of the case by disassembling the entire damn thing.

DAAAANG....that would not be fun to have to pull the entire trans just to pull that out
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