Blown F-150

Agreed, small market in reality. There are several tuners out there with pretty good tunes for the GT's. Evan's tuning is doing some very impressive work without upgrading any of the fueling. The initial hit and dip in Fuel pressure seems to be one of the things they have really focused on improving. Three good tuners have all said you can run these on a stock calibration without issue. you just don't gain the full benefit or potential.

I think the difficulty in tuning is a very small factor. It's simply a small market with not a lot of exposure. V8's and superchargers have a good following in the pick-up world due to years of offerings. Still, not many around. I know I was a rarity in my area.

That link (I couldn't access the OP's other threads), basically showed a tuner who just jumped into tuning that truck with no previous experience on the set up. Everybody has to start somewhere. MPT couldn't tune a truck that I know is local just a year ago, now they know what needs to be done.

rlicata

I tested the 2.7 and the 5.0 (2016) and was impressed by the tiny 2.7 minus the absurd need to keep switching the auto shutoff, off, each time I started it. I am too old to deal with Fords need to pacify CAFE standards.
The 5.0 was effortless. I can read charts. I can do math. But to me there was an effortless
delivery of power in the 5.0 even though a dyno chart shows the 2.7 as a major contender. If you put the trans in "S" and limit top gear with the shifter it is a rocket.
I have only had my 2016 Supercab for a couple of weeks but I get over 18 MPG for mixed driving and I drive 70-80 on the freeway with 3.73 gears. MPG is hand calculated, not the computer which by the way was real close.
Another reason I chose the 5.0 is that all things equal a larger engine will outlast a small one. Many friends have had to replace turbos ( not F150 ) and that was not something I want to be concerned about in a vehicle I plan to keep for over 200,000 miles.
Time will tell if I made the right choice but for now, I am team 5.0.

rrp0968

Search my ID for my Eco Issues? Not going to rehash them here. Look up Eco Charge Air Cooler Condensation. Had a 2013 Eco and traded it at 9000 miles for an identical truck with 5.0 power. Will never own another Eco.

BUILTTOLAST

More comments of "Fords V8 will be done in a few years in favour of V6s"
Whitch simply isn't the case BTW as its been stated many times by Ford Executives "The V8 isn't going anywhere" and Fords currently investing billions if not millions into the V8.Theres just still way too many V8 only buyers to kill the V8,also share holders of Ford/Lincoln with millions invested on the board would not allow it.
Since the EB came out its gained the stigma of "Anti V8" whitch simply isn't the case/not what Fords going for.Its to show you can get X amount of power out of a X size engine while getting X efficiency.
It would be no different than a 5.0 EB (or possibly a 4.8 EB) "Big V8 power out of a smaller V8 while getting smaller V8 efficiency"

The V8 isn't going anywhere,it's sticking around and let's hope this new coming 4.8 V8 that they are investing ALOT of money in gets the EB cool aid.

vtoy1

Not sure about the States, but in Canada, the EB doesn't have the higher resale value. There's a whole lotta them out there priced cheaper than the 5.0.
This might be simply because there are more EB's than 5.0 in the market, but it's worth noting at least anecdotally that in my experience, there seems to be a surfeit of EB's with round about 100k miles on the market. Is this because there are problems creeping up at this mileage? I don't know, but it is curious to me. You be the judge.

vtoy1

After owning the 5.4 for 9 years, it was clear there was a remarkable debate between EB and 5.0, and I was going to have to pick a side. Both sides have strong arguments, I admit myself that it is hard to deny low end Hp and torque of the EB. v8 sound is used a lot for the 5.0 as an argument...sure I love the sound, who doesn't??? Show me someone who doesn't like the gurgly rumbly sound and I'll show you George Michael fan. Having said that I loved the TV show Cheers, it was a great show, but upon serious reflection it turns out if I never saw another rerun of that show I'd do just fine, so in the long run v8 rumble is a silly excuse to purchase a vehicle...in my opinion anyway, what do I know??
To make a clear distinction between the two engines is impossible. There are no hard statistics, at least none available to the general public, ie; the people who buy the stuff. This is a shame, but understandable for a large corporation to keep it secret in the same manner my wife keeps her credit card statements a secret from me...there's just some things people don't want others to know.
So we are left with anecdotal evidence. This is lousy, horrible, non scientific, hardly statistical, and yet it's all we've got...and when you reach out there and you read this stuff...the "Individual" stories of real world people who've purchased Eco Boosts and had their engines self destruct with no forewarning are legion. Ok maybe not legion, but Jesus, there's a lot of them.
Now, maybe these people are lying in unison. Could be, it's not impossible. I doubt it though, people are too lazy for that.
You know what I don't hear? I don't hear stories about catastrophic failures of 5.0l's. I don't. I've looked for them....I know they must exist because people have stated, and they are absolutely correct in stating, that these are mass produced engines so you're gunna get some bad apples. And yet...I haven't seen stories of catastrophic failure in 5.0l. Again, this could be a conspiracy, but I doubt it. People just don't have time for that kinda stuff. Or I could be wrong. All I know is I wouldn't purchase an EB. Nope. Not gunna. I bought the 5.0l and gosh it's nice. Compared to the 5.4l...wow does it ever kick butt. And regardless of how irrelevant and unimportant that gurgling, rumbling v 8 sound is to the real world locomotion between point and and point b, with a magnaflow dual exhaust, Christ it is a gooooood sound!

NASSTY

If you run the #s on KBB or NADA a used truck with the Ecoboost is worth more $$. The difference in price is probably about the same as the initial cost of the Ecoboost when the truck was new.

tsigwing

you could say that about EVERY motor in the current Ford lineup

engineermike

Vtoy1, agree or disagree, that was one entertaining post. Thanks!

Shadetree43

EB may be more "fun" to drive, but 5.0 sure sounds good.