How to pump gas OUT of pressure side (for chainsaws, ATV etc)
#23
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Actually I can see the benefits of doing this. Storing the fuel in your truck's tank is the probably the safest way. If we could devise a safe way to take some out for external use it would be great. The engine fuel system is designed to prevent fires by (among other things) stopping the pump in the event of a wreck and/or rollover.
What about using the Ford supplied emergency fueler to open the tank door then inserting a pump/siphon to remove the fuel? No mods to fuel system but relatively easy way to get fuel.
What about using the Ford supplied emergency fueler to open the tank door then inserting a pump/siphon to remove the fuel? No mods to fuel system but relatively easy way to get fuel.
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Fyaboy (12-17-2014)
#24
Actually I can see the benefits of doing this. Storing the fuel in your truck's tank is the probably the safest way. If we could devise a safe way to take some out for external use it would be great. The engine fuel system is designed to prevent fires by (among other things) stopping the pump in the event of a wreck and/or rollover.
What about using the Ford supplied emergency fueler to open the tank door then inserting a pump/siphon to remove the fuel? No mods to fuel system but relatively easy way to get fuel.
What about using the Ford supplied emergency fueler to open the tank door then inserting a pump/siphon to remove the fuel? No mods to fuel system but relatively easy way to get fuel.
Thanks for the suggestions guys but I've used truckbed fuel tanks. I'm not remotely interested in buying, adding, managing, and protecting a 2nd tank just to pump out 5 or 10gal.
My gut feel is I want about 2 gallons per minute, to fill a 5-gallon can in 2.5 minutes. I have no idea what the flowrate of the onboard pump is. Does anybody know of a good schematic depicting a 2013 F150 fuel system?
There's a pretty good (transfer) pump by MrGasket 95P for $115 (1.5 gpm), which I might consider if the onboard unit can't be used, but that's adding another system and still 'tapping in'.
The procedure has to be "convenient" or it's not worth the modification. Although I can tell for some of you guys it's not worth it period, you guys probably aren't as tired of managing a fleet of gas cans. Still hoping for an "easy" mod, and hoping someone with experience happens across this thread before it gets blown out.
Last edited by Fyaboy; 12-16-2014 at 02:13 PM.
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leauxtide (01-09-2015)
#26
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I don't think he is trolling. What is the safest way to carry gasoline in your truck? It has to be the tank. No other system is crash tested. How many of you carry cans in the back of your truck that you are sure would withstand a crash? I'll bet most are not even tied down.
A rollover would be worse.
The pump mentioned is gravity feed and so I don't think it will self prime. That could be a problem.
The fuel injection pump on board is in the tank and the only pump in the system. Based on the horsepower it will support, I'd guess it is about 100 GPH. But turning it on safely and not defeating the on board safety systems would be essential. I maintain that you should seek a solution that does not require modification of the factory fuel system.
A rollover would be worse.
The pump mentioned is gravity feed and so I don't think it will self prime. That could be a problem.
The fuel injection pump on board is in the tank and the only pump in the system. Based on the horsepower it will support, I'd guess it is about 100 GPH. But turning it on safely and not defeating the on board safety systems would be essential. I maintain that you should seek a solution that does not require modification of the factory fuel system.
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Fyaboy (12-16-2014)
#27
I have an A.R.E. canopy and not interested PERIOD in adding tanks to manage, not with 36 gallons onboard with a great filling system already. Don't even have a gas cap!
Thanks FeatherM for the great, on-topic attention.
I haven't researched how high the Mr-Gasket 95p can draw fuel. But adding a 2nd pump is not my ideal solution.
I can't think of any that's why I'm asking the bigger brains on the forum. Definitely prefer minimal modification, even better if the modification is reversible back to 100% stock. If I had to replace a little section of OEM fuel line to put it back to 100% stock I consider that reversible.
Thanks FeatherM for the great, on-topic attention.
I can't think of any that's why I'm asking the bigger brains on the forum. Definitely prefer minimal modification, even better if the modification is reversible back to 100% stock. If I had to replace a little section of OEM fuel line to put it back to 100% stock I consider that reversible.
Last edited by Fyaboy; 12-16-2014 at 02:40 PM.
#28
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#29
I'd rather be sailing.
Just to throw ideas . . . . .
Maybe tap the return fuel line to the tank? The engine would need to run but you would not mess with the feed to the motor, not mess with fuel pressures or loss of that kill the pump, etc etc.
A simple tee in the return line near the tank with a proper braided hose and some type of valve.
I have no idea if this would work but it is an interesting and DIFFERENT approach!
Scott
Maybe tap the return fuel line to the tank? The engine would need to run but you would not mess with the feed to the motor, not mess with fuel pressures or loss of that kill the pump, etc etc.
A simple tee in the return line near the tank with a proper braided hose and some type of valve.
I have no idea if this would work but it is an interesting and DIFFERENT approach!
Scott
#30
We'd do it
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I like the idea, but I think some of you guys are over complicating it.
Your truck has a fuel pressure test port. You take a fuel pressure test gauge and screw it on it. A fuel pressure test gauge has a pressure relief line. You push a button on it and gas squirts out the relief line. Put the line in whatever needs gas. Now for this to work you need to hotwire the fuel pump to run. The truck should have a fuel pump test wire, that would be how you turn on the pump. For my '87 I just had to ground a wire on a connector, I had a ground wire with the proper terminal close to it so I could run my pump whenever I wanted. Not sure how to do it on yours but that would be easy for you to search and figure out.
Use caution when trying it the first time, and every other time, it's got pretty good pressure.
Your truck has a fuel pressure test port. You take a fuel pressure test gauge and screw it on it. A fuel pressure test gauge has a pressure relief line. You push a button on it and gas squirts out the relief line. Put the line in whatever needs gas. Now for this to work you need to hotwire the fuel pump to run. The truck should have a fuel pump test wire, that would be how you turn on the pump. For my '87 I just had to ground a wire on a connector, I had a ground wire with the proper terminal close to it so I could run my pump whenever I wanted. Not sure how to do it on yours but that would be easy for you to search and figure out.
Use caution when trying it the first time, and every other time, it's got pretty good pressure.