Payload Question
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So basically reduce weight, which I don’t want to do.
Idk much about upgrading payload so I thought I would ask.
Firmer shocks? Add leaf spring? Air bags, rubber bag springs? None of that will increase payload? None of those are terribly expensive things either, just looking for some real feedback if I wanted to increase my safety margin further.
Idk much about upgrading payload so I thought I would ask.
Firmer shocks? Add leaf spring? Air bags, rubber bag springs? None of that will increase payload? None of those are terribly expensive things either, just looking for some real feedback if I wanted to increase my safety margin further.
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So basically reduce weight, which I don’t want to do.
Idk much about upgrading payload so I thought I would ask.
Firmer shocks? Add leaf spring? Air bags, rubber bag springs? None of that will increase payload? None of those are terribly expensive things either, just looking for some real feedback if I wanted to increase my safety margin further.
Idk much about upgrading payload so I thought I would ask.
Firmer shocks? Add leaf spring? Air bags, rubber bag springs? None of that will increase payload? None of those are terribly expensive things either, just looking for some real feedback if I wanted to increase my safety margin further.
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i understand that would apply in stock form, but the engineers at ford did so to carry the weight it currently can carry. So, if they were to re-engineer parts to improve the payload what would that be? To say nothing can be done, cant be accurate as payload in the 150 has increased pretty substantially in the last few gens.
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You can legally change payload by upgrading components and having your truck re-evaluated. It's done for heavier-duty trucks routinely. I've never heard of it being done on a half-ton truck, and I expect it would be costly... but it can be done. For my remaining comments, please note that I'm in no way advocating that anyone exceed their truck's payload.
Here's a comment I made in an HDPP thread:
Originally Posted by Ford Body Builder Advisory Service
Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR) is determined by the rated capacity of the minimum component of the axle system (axle, computer-selected springs, wheels, tires) of a specific vehicle.
...if it's the rated capacity of only those four components that is used to figure out GAWR, then it stands to reason that an HDPP-equipped truck has a rear axle rated for 4,800 lbs and a rear GAWR of 4,800 lbs, if the ratings of the other three components (springs, wheels, tires) each--on their own--exceed 4,800 lbs. Last I checked, the HDPP 18x7.5" wheels were rated for 2,275 lbs each, so I don't see how that can be the case. Maybe these elusive 4,800-lb rear GAWR trucks have different wheels.
My wheels are rated for 2,500 lbs each. My tires are rated for 3,535 lbs each at 65 psi. My AALs add 2,000 lbs of capacity to the pair of leaf spring packs (which have a minimum 3,500 lb rating from Ford, or 3,850, 4,220, or 4,800, depending on configuration). So, again, if the GAWR is determined by the lowest-rated component of those four, then my effective rear GAWR is 4,500 lbs... the weight rating of my axle. If I'm interpreting this incorrectly, let me know.
My wheels are rated for 2,500 lbs each. My tires are rated for 3,535 lbs each at 65 psi. My AALs add 2,000 lbs of capacity to the pair of leaf spring packs (which have a minimum 3,500 lb rating from Ford, or 3,850, 4,220, or 4,800, depending on configuration). So, again, if the GAWR is determined by the lowest-rated component of those four, then my effective rear GAWR is 4,500 lbs... the weight rating of my axle. If I'm interpreting this incorrectly, let me know.
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You can't increase your truck's factory payload rating either quickly or cheaply.
You can legally change payload by upgrading components and having your truck re-evaluated. It's done for heavier-duty trucks routinely. I've never heard of it being done on a half-ton truck, and I expect it would be costly... but it can be done. For my remaining comments, please note that I'm in no way advocating that anyone exceed their truck's payload.
Here's a comment I made in an HDPP thread:
You can legally change payload by upgrading components and having your truck re-evaluated. It's done for heavier-duty trucks routinely. I've never heard of it being done on a half-ton truck, and I expect it would be costly... but it can be done. For my remaining comments, please note that I'm in no way advocating that anyone exceed their truck's payload.
Here's a comment I made in an HDPP thread:
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Thanks for taking the time to answer my question, which I probably should have re-phrased. In any case, it can be done. The quotes you posted had some acronyms i am not familiar with. The quotes did provide some information to me though.
