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Ford transitioned to roller-ready blocks in the early 90s, but didn't actually install roller lifters until a few years later. Roller cams require a different distributor gear, and I've read that happened before roller lifters appeared, so there are roller cams without rollers. I think my '93 5.8L is one of them, but I haven't specifically checked because I haven't rebuilt it or replaced its distributor.
Originally Posted by qdeezie
...your belief is that all Ford vehicles should be bone stock...
OK Thanks for telling me what my belief is.
Just to post some facts for you, BDC1...
My '83 Bronco has 2 bone-stock parts left on it: the front shoulder belts. Everything else has been changed several times, including the frame.
My '94 CV has a '00 engine & trans (for a few more days - it was totalled a couple of months ago). The trans is about to go into my '98 MGM.
My '93 Bronco is being built with parts from at least 10 other vehicles (most of those were Ford, but not all).
The '75 Bronco I built for a friend looked bone-stock from the outside (other than paint colors), but it was far from it.
Yes, I think Ford/MotorCraft parts are the best available (big surprise) - factory-originals moreso than replacements. So I enthusiastically encourage anyone who asks to use them whenever possible. But not necessarily in their "bone stock" factory installations.
You can have a roller cam compatible block that still had a flat tappet cam and lifters. The way to tell if it is a roller compatible block is the presence of the two bosses in the lifter valley that hold down the spider - you can see them in this roller 351w I recently had:
351w didn't become roller compatible until 94 - they will have the F4TE casting on the block. And even then almost all of the 94 and 95 trucks that had the roller compatible block still got the flat tappet cam. I have only found 351w roller cam engines in 96 and 97 F250's.
But back to the main topic - yes the truck intake is the best for the 302
That's good information. Thank you. I have decided to take some measurements of both intakes, as I have both, and go from there. I will rebuild one of the engines for sure and I think I will be going distributor as my plan is to run an a9l computer. Again, I don't claim to know much about any of this as this is my first ford build ever, so correct me when I'm wrong and feel free to add please. I want this jeep project to be a fantastic driver first and foremost.
The truck intake would be superior but I've never seen it used on a build. I think the twin throttle body and the fact many Ford vehicles had the Mustang style intake are the reason.
As I've said there is no real aftermarket support for Ford distributorless ignition system but a lot using a distributor.
I think you've seen steve83 is simply a Troll and loves to cause problems. The traffic in this area of the forum has really died off and this is where he posts. If he posted much in the main areas I believe he would have been booted long ago. Only reason he's here is he was chased off other forums.
[/topic] I guess I should be flattered that so many people know all about me, and like making ME the topic of every thread. A "troll" is someone who tries to derail a thread, as by making personal attacks, like sdmartin does. My posts have been on-topic (except this one, obviously).[topic]
Not sure about the a9l computer. My customer's Bronco looked like any Ford car 5.0 of the late eighties early nineties under the hood. I asked if it was a stripped harness from a car to run it. His was aftermarket wiring ect. He acted as if it was fairly common and could be ordered from suppliers of early Bronco mod parts.
The coilpack ignition is far superior to the distributor ignition! With the coilpack, 2 plugs are fired in series, each plug gets the opposite polarity spark. One plug is on the top of the compression stroke, the other plug is on the top of the exhaust stroke. Another term for this ignition system is "waste spark". Also, with the coilpack ignition, there is a camshaft position sensor that goes in the place for a distributor.
I have never seen so much misinformation in my life.
roller compatable 5.8 blocks were introduced in 1993, aka the first gen lightning.
there is tons of aftermarket support for dis ignition.
those who think Ford got it right are backyard mechanic internet wannabes who really do not know what they are talking about. I feel for the people who come onto these old threads looking for answers, only to find out after they spend there money on the wrong parts. All I can advise people here reading this is become informed from real Sbf techs, not this BS!
12-29-2018, 12:40 AM
A "troll" is someone who tries to derail a thread, as by making personal attacks, like sdmartin does. My posts have been on-topic (except this one, obviously).[topic]
