Honest review of 4x4TruckLED's led headlights
 

first, a small bit about myself. I was a long time member at another f150 forum that has since turned into a ghost town.

I met 4x4TruckLED's over there and battled him for a month as I was 100% against PnP led headlights.

I'm not going to be the guy that just says "these are awesome" and posts a single pic.

I'll let the photos speak and will keep this short. I tested these against sylvania zxe halogen bulbs. Photos were taken with my iPhone 6S. There are some damp spots on the road in a couple of the comparison pics. Nothing is doctored in anyway and there are no filters applied to the photos.

So far, I like them. I can't speak on longevity, but I like the output and the color temp. I'm not getting glare and that was my main concern. Oh, and even though I bickered back and forth with 4x4truckleds and pretty much told him his leds were junk, he was still a nice guy and gave me the chance to try and also review these.

Now for the pics.
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The low beam led has a shield to help with the cut off.
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These LEDs are adjustable. If you do not possition them correctly, you will get the dreaded glare we all know so well.
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However, if you install correctly, there will be no more glare than a halogen produces.
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Here's a wall shot comparing the halogen with the led. The cutoff is about equal.
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Halogen low beam
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Led high beam
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Led low beam 40 feet from wall
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Led low beam 40 feet from a wall with incandescent light to show color temp difference
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High beams
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Nice. Thanks for the feedback.

As far as that meme goes, I expect more out of you. :) oh, and thanks for mentioning this site. Way more activity than the other.

If I new how that thanking feature worked, I wouldn't be replying.

Awesome. I'm impressed!

Yeah, I'm definitely getting those kits now! I was trying to find some better night shots and just wow!!! My question though, is did you have to adjust the headlights when you put the new bulbs in or leave them be? Obviously you have an older truck but it would be all the same, would it not?

If you get 4x4truckleds lights, just instal them how they come out of the box. The directions were backwards before and told you to flip them. They may have since changed.

But yeah, don't do any adjustments to the light, just instal like you would with a halogen.

You have an 09-14 right? Yeah, even though we have different shaped headlights, they both use H13 and would be pretty much the same.

Nope, I have the 16. I use an ****H11**** and a 9005 bulb for low/high. I'm really excited after seeing your pictures even though the bulbs are different, I think the light output I'll see will be a bit better.

Ah, well yours will be better than mine! Get them, you'll love them.

Lol I did. I placed my order the second I saw your night comparisons. :D now just need to find a good housing with the LED turn signals.

Please post pics when you get them in. I know your 16 has a better headlight housing then my 08, so I'd love to see how they turn out for you.

I use the sylvania zevo turn signals and like them. I know he sells the diode dynamics leds and have only heard good things. You may want to check those out for turn signals.

Did you have to adjust the low beams much if so how hard was it to adjust it?

How is the glare from the vehicles in front of you? Any complaints?

Really want to pull the trigger on this but I have not seen these installed in any 09-14' yet.

I didn't have to adjust anything.

There is no more glare than a halogen. I drove my girlfriends car in front of the truck to verify.

I've had these in for a couple months and have not been flashed.

Oh I will certainly post pictures! Of course I have to get my truck back from the dealership to do it though. It's been a week today and they still haven't even touched it.

4x4 sells them? I thought you had to heat the housing up to get those in? Oh no no no! I meant the actual ring that goes around the headlights! Lol. Like the Anzo and win jet housings.

Heat the housing? I'm not sure I know what you mean.

Yes, I bought from 4x4truckleds, a vender on this forum.

I thought you were talking about the LED strip, not the bulb. I was talking about the housing containing the led strips surrounding the lights lol.

I took apart my headlights today because I put in the new 2007 Raptor-ish grill (pics tomorrow) and ended up checking out my lights since they've been in since about February. Still going strong, no issues at all. Look good, everything works properly.

Thanks for the orders guys, everybody who placed an or up until 10pm EST will get shipped tomorrow.

Ah, sorry I was confused haha.

Got my package in the mail yesterday now all have to do is get you over for the install. 😃

It should be noted that 2008_XL actually used to battle with me on another forum. He was completely against LED lights, but after convincing him to try a pair and offering his $$ back if he didn't like them, he's been a happy camper.

This is true. We definitely battled long and hard. But you were right and I'm happy to know my review may have at least helped with a few sales.

Side note, I was only against PnP leds as headlights because most of them do suck and all they do is cause glare. These however, do not.

Trying to decide if these will work well on my Expedition. Since its an 07, the housing is similar to 09-14 F-150's, which seem to do well with LED headlight bulbs.

They should work just fine. I can't say how the light output will work but an improvement over stock halogen I'm sure.

Need a pair of these shipped to Guam Via USPS priority. Site won't let me check out.

Damn...:censored:

Private message the vendor. 4x4truckleds has been very good with timely replies. This is a holiday weekend so it might be tough.

I goofed and double posted. I'll just add


Happy Independence Day... lets take America back and make it great again for the generations to come.

Guam should work it's a territory within the United States. PM me your address in Guam so I can test the site

I just tried this using a zip code from Guam... it give me pricing/etc... $17.47 shipping to Guam.

You need to make sure the COUNTRY is set to United States, since that's a territory within the United States. The only COUNTRYS I ship to are United States and Canada... so if you picked GUAM as the COUNTRY that was your issue. Just pick UNITED STATES

I just finished my install and adjust. Man these really are much better than the stock halogen units. I never got flashed during my test drive.

What would be a good set of fog light bulbs to match with these?

The same kind as the Headlights... the XHP lights. They look fantastic (and there's a 25% off buy right now, check out the Vendor forum)

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Just drove around with my new complete set of LEDs from 4x4truckleds and very nice improvement in night vision. I have adjusted them and I don't seem to be annoying anyone. Thanks

I'm really liking the look of the LED lights. How would they work on a truck that has DRLs? Are the LEDs dimmable?

I've just gotten around to installing mine yesterday but have not tested it outside yet. What kind of adjustments did you have to make? All I did was have the shroud upside down in the enclosure and that's it.

My XLT headlights were high from the factory. I followed Ford's adjustment tutorial as close as I could. The new LEDs illuminate the road and shoulders much much better. I couldn't see in town at night let alone a deer on the highway. I feel I have corrected a very unsafe condition. It's not just Ford that has bad headlights, but it's sad that they are willing to put your safety at risk by providing inadequate forward lighting if one can't afford a $6000 package.

He probably needed to reaim them given that they have a more focused hotspot than incandescents.

I've gotten mine installed and will go for a test driver later when it gets darker.

Let us know what you think.

Do good directions come with the LEDs for installation?

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They are as simple as taking them out of the box, installing them as they come preset, just like you would with a halogen.

I wear my sunglasses at night (insert tune here) because people put LEDs in Halogen housings....

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Sorry man not everyone can afford $1700-$3000 for factoy LED lighting, but we need to be safe too. My '16 XLT was so dim on the highway it was like someone was holding a flashlight out the window. Anyway I'm happy with my solution, and have tested and and adjusted them properly.

Could you easly paint the housing black? And still the the LEDs be effective?

Not really, no. People who paint their housings do so when they install projectors because they no longer need the reflective bowl. If you did it with an LED you'd be doing the same thing as if you did it with an incandescent bulb (minus the heat and smoking paint of course).

You mean because people put "crappy" LEDs in their housing :)

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Low beams

Newsflash...LEDs don't belong in Halogen housings. They do not meet DOT compliance and while SO many people say they aren't blinding the reality is...They ARE!

ANYWAY thanks for stopping by :)

No Problem! Anytime!

Feel free to read the label in those LED lights and brush up on your knowledge of Halogen housings!

Glad I could help! :)

If the LEDs "burnout" do you have to replace with the full $140 conversation kit or are you able to just replace the light part?

So? Are your LED lights DOT compliant in Halogen housings?

None are. Just like pnp hid and technically even retrofits are not.

You can replace just the LED bulb. If your LED burns out within the warranty period I always send a bulb AND a ballast, so that you can replace them as a pair because it's tough to diagnose if it's a bad bulb OR ballast. So you get a new bulb AND ballast if one of the items fails. I'd rather cover all the bases then have someone first try a bulb to learn it's a ballast or the other way around.

Ya know what's funny. The guy who posted this topic originally, 2008_XL, used to battle against me ALL THE TIME on another forum (f150online). He was constantly saying how bad LED's were/etc...

He bought a kit (with the understanding I'd give him a 100% money back return if he was not happy in any way).

Not only was he happy, he's gone on to tell OTHERS about how wonderful the lights are.

Sooo what I'm saying is... would you like to try out a pair and if you are not happy, you get your money back? That's how much I believe in this product. They don't blind oncoming drivers and until you try a set for yourself, you'll never believe that.

I used to be just like you. I guarantee you haven't tried a higher end set or seen them in action.

I personally used my girlfriends car and tested for any glare coming from my truck at many different angles and distances. There was no more than the halogen produced.

No need to be that guy. Show some proof that specific lights in this thread produce glare. Otherwise your words mean nothing.

Also, DOT approved, doesn't matter in my state. My sylvania zevo leds in my tails, reverse and front turn signals are also not DOT approved. Again, who cares.

Your argument is boring. Get some facts or actually test the leds in question before you think you know it all.

See...now this response is a lot better than the "thanks for dropping by" reply you made earlier.

As a vendor I expect a little more if you want to establish your credibility. Unfortunately you lost me.

I buy what I want and need from factory, I have the factory HIDs...when it comes to lighting most should.

I am also one of a growing number of motorists who is getting fed up with all the non compliant after factory headlights blinding me on highways.

As you should be.

Unfortunely, most of those that blind you are the cheap $50 eBay kits. There's a difference between high end kits and low end kits.

Again, I think you're upset about all the cheap kits that blind you. I was in your exact shoes.

These however, are different but you're lumping them into the same category without having seen them for yourself.

Ultimately it's all about the aiming and the design of the bulb. Some bulbs are designed better than others. I know for a fact that the ones that I got to review (for $50 with a promo code, half what they normally were) on amazon are designed the exact same way as the ones you got for this thread (from 4x4truckleds) -- maybe even from the same factory, to be honest.

Ultimately the design of the bulb is what will make the light dispersal patterns different between them. Also the ballasts are only required for voltage smoothing to ensure there's no flicker, but if the ballast goes you'll know immediately. Thankfully you can buy ballasts for $10-15 on your own that are just the same as the ones we have.

Buying inexpensive bulbs/ballasts doesn't mean they're crap, buying cheap ones does.

There's things to look for, a low beam directional hood so you can ensure cutoff, a heat pipe design, a removable/replaceable fan in the event the fan dies off, etc.

As a vendor here I got tired of people saying "LEDs" suck without trying them. There were many wars months ago about LED's so now I don't even bother arguing about it anymore.

A-freaking-men! I am also fed up with the newer Harley's with led headlights... those things blind you during the day, let alone at night.

It's all about proper headlight adjustment and using the proper bulbs. The XHP series kits these folks have been buying from me outperform any other LED product on the market (that's again, WHY I sell them). They don't blind people like the cheaper products you are used to.

Give them a try eyecandy, if you don't like them I'll give you your money back

I was doing a retrofit on my '11, but due to unforseen job changes between my wife and I, I ended up trading my truck in on Subaru Legacy yesterday with halogen projectors.

http://www.jdmastar.com/advanced_search_result.php?keyword=&ye=2016&ma=FOR D&mo=F-150&qu=w/halogen%20capsule%20headlamps&cid=314&perpage=12&s ort_by=1&dm=0

Anyone have experience with JDMaster? Looks like they are having a sale as well with better pricing than 4x4trucksLEDs.com

You get what you pay for. Cheaper prices don't mean you get equal product for a lesser price.

I tried a couple sets of LED switchbacks from jdm astar earlier this year. Both flickered, returned and got my money back. That's my experience.

I've installed my LED headlights by 4x4TruckLED's last week. So far so good! The LED's have a really nice cut-off for it being in halogen housings and much brighter than the halogen bulbs, but I have not quite driven with them at night yet.

I am going on 8 hour road trip this weekend which will be mostly at night and I will report back on how well they perform in back country roads.

You can try the JDMastar ones but you'll need the rubber boots (another $15 plus shipping so figure $20) so now you are up to $119... my sale sold them at $105... soo looks like I'm cheaper. Granted my everyday price is $140 so normally I'm $21 more. but with the F150Forum 10% off my everyday price is actually $126 so we're talking $7 more.. but you also get my customer support (and anybody who has talked to me knows you can reach me 24/7 practically and all issues are handled right away)

I'll be honest and tell you the lights are sell are starting to hit mainstream now. I was one of the first 2-3 people to sell them, but now they are catching on. With that said, again you get what you pay for. There are DOZENS of "manufactuers" who make these lights overseas. I've had issues with a few manufacturers where the bulbs/ballasts were sub-par. So it takes time to work out the kinks. I'm actually STILL working out the kinks with the H13 bulbs, which is why I can't discount them yet (gotta pay for quality).

I bought the Hi and Low beams for my 2015 and I am very happy with the performance up to this time. Had to make a slight adjustment and don't get flashed by other drivers. I drive the hills and back roads of Western Mass and Vermont when I travel to and from work. I drive very early in the morning and late at night. I especially like the Hi beams and use them quite a bit because I need them. They light up the road, especially the reflective road markers and signs and you can also the critters eyeballs on the side of the road when they look in your direction. That is one of the main reasons I installed them,so I don't have to scrape the critter off of the truck! I highly recommend them.
They also greatly improve the appearance of the truck.

Sure hope you're getting more sells from the Midland, Tx area. I've been seeing more and more of the LED headlights since I installed mine and put the sticker on my rear window!

I get a few orders form TX, not sure if they are because of your truck lol, but I do appreciate the sticker on your truck

Anyone use the Diode Dynamics HP80 LEDs that 4x4TruckLed sells?
I see that they are $90 for a pair but I would like to see pictures or videos and honest reviews about this particular LED before I drop that kind of money on them.

You mean XP80s? What kind of LED. Rear Blinkers or Reverse Lights? I sell more reverse lights in the XP80 series then I do blinkers... but I sell quite a bit of the blinkers in XP80.

I personally have the XP80 reverse on my 2015 and they are VERY bright

Yes sorry XP80. I plan on swapping out my front blinker of my truck. Bulb is 3157

Soo we're talking about the front blinker, XP80... your truck is a 2014 or earlier right (2015/2016 use a 7443 in the fronts).

I don't have that many people order XP80 for the front blinkers... usually they get the HP24 switchbacks or something similar in lumen, since it's a front blinker.

I have a 2016. Front blinker is a 3157 bulb.

Nope... your truck uses a 7443 actually (2014 and earlier use the 3157) TECHNICALLY a 7444NA but that's the same as a 7443

A 3157 will NOT fit for your front turn signal. They look the same but the base is slightly different.

Recently a customer was accidentally sent a 3157 for his front turn signal and it DOES NOT fit, whereas every 2015/2016 customer of mine has ordered the 7443 and not one person has told me they have issues.

But the most popular are Diode Dynamics 7443 HP24 Switch Backs. A white light that goes to amber when your signal goes on. The XP80 seem to be popular as well but I see more HP11's being sold then any other 7443 to be quite honest. At least from my own sales. Maybe Diode Dynamics can chime in as to what bulb they seem to be most popular

Nor are oversize (or undersize) tires and wheels. Darkly tinted windows are not compliant.

We have too much government ... if his lights cause no additional glare over stock halogens, what is your problem. Even brighter halogens are probably not compliant.

It's just a way for LED haters to win an argument gybnum... no biggie. Half the cool stuff we put on our trucks (as you said) is not DOT legal, but we do it anyway.

No glare.

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Hi all, I own a 2016 Ford F-150 SCrew XLT FX4 and couldn't stand that some lights on the truck were led and most were halogen. I bought low/high beams and fogs from 4x4truckleds and they are awesome. One small issue which Adam fixed very quickly. I also purchased from Adam the DD bulbs for my front turn signals, side marker lights, cargo lights, 3rd brake light, tag lights, tail, and reverse lights so now every bulb on my truck is a led. They are all awesome. Work as they should, easy install. I am very happy. Have received many compliments on the lights. All of them are MUCH better than stock lights. Several more folks are ordering these lights after seeing mine. They really light up great. Improved visibility and good cut off. Great products and great customer service. If you are on the fence you need to go ahead and purchase these lights.

Been a year and a half. Still working great.

just went through all of your led threads. thank you for the details and photos. ill be ordering up a set after the TG holiday!

:thumbsup:

They’re having some pretty good deals for Black Friday, FYI.

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Pretty good review! I looked through all the threads on this one. I'm interested in the H11 headlight set and all the other exterior LED bulbs for my 2016 F-150.

How's the warranty on these? How are returns for defective (dead on arrival) or wrong item?

I'm comparing these to the famous Putco Silver-Lux and the GTR Ultras... just a little more affordable.

Can you provide a link for these lights? Thank you.

https://www.4x4truckleds.com

The exact model will depend on the year truck you have.

I ordered the Crystalux XHPs for my 2011 Lariat. I did not get the flicker resistor... Do I need it?

On a 2014 and older you only need the anti-flicker adapters if you have an issue where your fog lights turn your highs on (I think it only happens when you run LED fogs though). Otherwise no flickering. The "bambi mod" also fixes that weird issue

So, 2011 is good to go with no flicker resistor?

All trucks are good without flickers except 2015+ and above MAY need them.
If your fogs turn your highs on then you need anti flickers as well (or do the bambi mod)

Thank you. I can't wait to get them and install them.

so far i love them. got flashed once so i may have to aim them down a little. its nice to actually be able to see at night. match my fogs well

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Hello, I need bulbs desperately. I drive in northern ontario and encounter moose frequently. My 2010 F150 screw has terrible stock halogen H13 bulbs.
What are my options? I`m obviously in Canada so if you dont ship there I also have a NY state address.
Thanks
Peter

I just installed the Phillips X-Tremevision on my F-150 and the light output is fantastic! I ended up getting them locally from Princess Auto, because Walmart and Canadian Tire didn't stock them.

I would just go with Sylvania XFE bulbs, most LEDs are really white and do not project as far as yellower halogens.

You know that color has absolutely nothing to do with lumen output or projector/reflector geometry, which are the two main things that decide how far a light travels...

Installed the CrystalLux H11 and 9005 LED bulbs from 4x4TruckLEDs.com. Used the anti-flicker CANBUS adapter and bigger rubber boot on the low beams. No written instructions supplied with kit, which I found lacking, so I relied on a competitor's install video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4qq3RrBWV4>.
I'm not thrilled with slicing an X in the boots and zip-tying the CANBUS harness outside of the light housing.

I haven't found any good explanation about "clocking" the bulbs but these kits come with a tiny Allen wrench to adjust them. The high beam bulbs seemed to be canted to about the 1-o'clock position so I used the wrench and rotated them to the 12-o'clock position. The low beam bulbs seemed to be clocked correctly. My concept of clocking is to face the LEDs to the sides as opposed to up/down.

Hope thery're sturdy, saw the "torture test" video of the previous model in a related thread so that was encouraging. I installed according to the video and it was straight forward but hope I don't have to repeat the process anytime soon. Adjusted aim slightly lower because the stock lights seemed high with an empty truck . First impressions - much better and more visible light - I prefer the white color. It's nice to be able to see my lights on lighted roads or with surrounding traffic The light output seems higher but I don't have an objective measure for that. The vanity meter says white color lights looks better than the daylight color on this white truck.