Will it hurt my truck to tow people out of big bogs?
#1
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Will it hurt my truck to tow people out of big bogs?
While out camping, I've seen some folks getting stuck in deep mud with big trailers in tow. Or sometimes, I've seen it where they park too close to the beach and bury their axles in sand and water.
What are the ways I could damage my truck trying to help these people out with a tow? I assume that if my wheels spin, that relieves some stress on the drive-train? Not sure what damage I should look out for. Pulling backward and forward the same? Tow rope better than chain? Any gauges that would tell me to give up? Rocking the truck must be bad, right? Jerking the tow rope, bad? Only use the tow hooks? Use the hitch?
This will be the first time I've had a truck that could help others out and would want to know what to consider.
What are the ways I could damage my truck trying to help these people out with a tow? I assume that if my wheels spin, that relieves some stress on the drive-train? Not sure what damage I should look out for. Pulling backward and forward the same? Tow rope better than chain? Any gauges that would tell me to give up? Rocking the truck must be bad, right? Jerking the tow rope, bad? Only use the tow hooks? Use the hitch?
This will be the first time I've had a truck that could help others out and would want to know what to consider.
#2
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Lots of potential for damage, from damaging your powertrain to busted straps and chains.
#3
Mark
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Never use chains.. a good recovery strap rated for above 5000lbs. works the best.
#4
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You should spend some time reading as you can not only do damage to your truck, but can get physically hurt or killed. There are differences between recovery/tow straps and ****** straps. If someone is just stuck, a recovery strap is adequate. If they are bogged down, then a ****** strap is often needed (and may be something to steer clear from).
A ****** strap is a piece of equipment used to help in the recovery of vehicles bogged in sand or mud. ****** straps are manufactured from webbing that is capable of approximately 20% stretch under load. This stretching property allows the strap to store kinetic energy, which is used to pull vehicles from a bog.
You must be connected properly, on both vehicles. And both drivers need to know what they are doing. An improperly sized strap, or improperly connected strap, can break and kill someone (a simple Google search will show this).
Never have hooks on the straps.
Never connect to a trailer ball.
Never use a chain.
Never use a tow strap when you should be using a ****** strap.
Never stand anywhere near where a strap can give way.
To your main question, yes you can damage your truck if you don't know what you're doing. You can also damage the stuck vehicle. You never rock the truck.
Anyone towing a big trailer should not be driving through deep mud, that's simply silly.
Here are some things you would want to buy, note that you will be spending over $80 to be a nice guy:
Smittybilt Receiver Hitch D-Ring with 3/4 inch shackle
Smittybilt D-Ring (for hooking up to the stuck vehicle)
Smittybilt 3 x 30 recovery strap, 30,000 lb capacity
All three sold together.
I have no problem pulling someone out of a problem. I would not subject my truck to snatching someone out of trouble. Too much chance for a big problem, and lack the experience to do it well / safely. With the three items listed, you can be a nice guy and pull out people that are stuck, but not bogged down. Steady pull, no jerking.
If you have 4x4, using Low will help. If you have an e-locker, engaging that will help.
Make sure the recipient of your help understands that their vehicle make be damaged and that's not your responsibility. Always drape a blanket over the strap so if it breaks it doesn't go flying.
A ****** strap is a piece of equipment used to help in the recovery of vehicles bogged in sand or mud. ****** straps are manufactured from webbing that is capable of approximately 20% stretch under load. This stretching property allows the strap to store kinetic energy, which is used to pull vehicles from a bog.
You must be connected properly, on both vehicles. And both drivers need to know what they are doing. An improperly sized strap, or improperly connected strap, can break and kill someone (a simple Google search will show this).
Never have hooks on the straps.
Never connect to a trailer ball.
Never use a chain.
Never use a tow strap when you should be using a ****** strap.
Never stand anywhere near where a strap can give way.
To your main question, yes you can damage your truck if you don't know what you're doing. You can also damage the stuck vehicle. You never rock the truck.
Anyone towing a big trailer should not be driving through deep mud, that's simply silly.
Here are some things you would want to buy, note that you will be spending over $80 to be a nice guy:
Smittybilt Receiver Hitch D-Ring with 3/4 inch shackle
Smittybilt D-Ring (for hooking up to the stuck vehicle)
Smittybilt 3 x 30 recovery strap, 30,000 lb capacity
All three sold together.
I have no problem pulling someone out of a problem. I would not subject my truck to snatching someone out of trouble. Too much chance for a big problem, and lack the experience to do it well / safely. With the three items listed, you can be a nice guy and pull out people that are stuck, but not bogged down. Steady pull, no jerking.
If you have 4x4, using Low will help. If you have an e-locker, engaging that will help.
Make sure the recipient of your help understands that their vehicle make be damaged and that's not your responsibility. Always drape a blanket over the strap so if it breaks it doesn't go flying.
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#5
No offense, but the fact that you're asking the question means you probably shouldn't be doing it. Recovering a seriously stuck vehicle can be dangerous to both vehicles and bystanders if you don't know what you're doing or if you're using the wrong equipment. As stated above, NEVER use chains, recover driving forwards if possible, use the proper straps and rigging. With any sort of off roading or recovery, expect and accept that things can break. If you're not comfortable with that, don't do it.
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Mark
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Just install a winch and be done with it..
#7
This was my thought too. Much safer as long as it is properly sized and has a properly sized cable. Many folks also forget that the typical cable needs some upkeep to avoid failure due to corrosion.
I think the best thing for the OP to do if he wants to help is offer to call a tow truck. Unsticking a vehicle, one with a trailer in particular, takes some knowledge to do correctly, safely and without damaging either parties equipment.
I think the best thing for the OP to do if he wants to help is offer to call a tow truck. Unsticking a vehicle, one with a trailer in particular, takes some knowledge to do correctly, safely and without damaging either parties equipment.
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#8
I use a heavy rope that stretches. I leave lots of slack in it and nail it. It's the only way to do it up here in the snow, otherwise you just spin your tires. Let inertia help you. My rope is so stretchy that I don't feel it when it starts to come tight. My truck just starts slowing down, then slingshot, they're out.
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#9
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There are also lots of things that can go bad with winches so don't just toss a winch on and go to town.
Winch cables can fray and/or snap from stress, your fancy $1000 winch can go FUBAR when someone inexperienced jerks on it or uses it like a recovery strap.
I'd say the best way to learn is to go to various offroad forums, check out websites for products and see what they have for information (Warn and Erikkson are good products for winches and recovery straps respectively) and if you're not sure, don't do it.
Winch cables can fray and/or snap from stress, your fancy $1000 winch can go FUBAR when someone inexperienced jerks on it or uses it like a recovery strap.
I'd say the best way to learn is to go to various offroad forums, check out websites for products and see what they have for information (Warn and Erikkson are good products for winches and recovery straps respectively) and if you're not sure, don't do it.
#10
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The worst part about helping people is they are usually not prepared to be helped and everyone is looking to sue anyone these days. I have pulled countless people out of the ditch when icy in Anchorage have a big truck and everyone calls you first before a tow truck. Most cars and some trucks dont have recovery points on the front make sure you hook up to something that wont break or rip a bumper off. I have never used my winch to pull anyone out a 30 foot strap and 4 low easy pressure worked best but that was on snow/ice. Being heavier than what your pulling helps alot.
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