Which weight counts against payload?
03-20-2017, 02:49 PM
#1
Which weight counts against payload?
I am looking at a 2014 F150 with 3.5L EB. It will pull my TT without problem. However, it has a #1408 payload.
I weighed the rig at a Cat scale and the TT with WDH was #4460. Then I raised the TT off the WDH, the (standalone) TT weighed #5240.
Which weight should come off the payload? 4460 @13% = 580 or 5240 @ 13%= 681.
Obviously the lower of the two weights would be better for such a low payload number. I just don't know which to use. Thanks for patience with a newbie
I weighed the rig at a Cat scale and the TT with WDH was #4460. Then I raised the TT off the WDH, the (standalone) TT weighed #5240.
Which weight should come off the payload? 4460 @13% = 580 or 5240 @ 13%= 681.
Obviously the lower of the two weights would be better for such a low payload number. I just don't know which to use. Thanks for patience with a newbie
03-20-2017, 02:59 PM
#2
Are you using a weight distribution system on you TT? I would definitely use one if not. I have one for my car trailer...they really take the weight off the tongue of the trailer/truck when I have a heavy load.
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03-20-2017, 04:10 PM
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What was the front and rear axle weight for the truck with the TT and WDH connected? Add the 2 truck axle weights to get the truck's total weight. Subtract that number from your GVWR and that's how much payload you have left.
03-20-2017, 04:42 PM
#7
Sorry for the misunderstanding. My fault for not being clearer.
The weights are from weighing my present truck and TT for comparison. Though I did not weigh both axles of the truck. Just throwing hypotheticals around to see if the 1408 payload of the "new" truck would be too low with the same TT.
The weights are from weighing my present truck and TT for comparison. Though I did not weigh both axles of the truck. Just throwing hypotheticals around to see if the 1408 payload of the "new" truck would be too low with the same TT.
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03-20-2017, 11:06 PM
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So the trailer axle weight was 4460?
Then I raised the TT off the WDH, the (standalone) TT weighed #5240.
So with the trailer axles and the trailer tongue jack on the scale, but without the tow vehicle, the trailer grossed 5,240?
Which weight should come off the payload? 4460 @13% = 580 or 5240 @ 13%= 681.
Total hitch weight.
If you had to estimate, you'd estimate it a 5240 @13% = 681 tongue weight, then add the weight of your WD hitch. But you don't have to estimate because you have the actual weights.
If the trailer axle weight was 4,460 and the gross trailer weight was 5,240, then your hitch weight is the difference, or 780 pounds.
So in your case, the estimate was right on the button. 681 estimated tongue weight plus 100 pounds for a good WD hitch = 781 pounds total hitch weight. Your actual total hitch weight was 780 pounds. Good job of estimating!
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03-21-2017, 07:18 AM
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So the trailer axle weight was 4460?
So with the trailer axles and the trailer tongue jack on the scale, but without the tow vehicle, the trailer grossed 5,240?
Total hitch weight.
If you had to estimate, you'd estimate it a 5240 @13% = 681 tongue weight, then add the weight of your WD hitch. But you don't have to estimate because you have the actual weights.
If the trailer axle weight was 4,460 and the gross trailer weight was 5,240, then your hitch weight is the difference, or 780 pounds.
So in your case, the estimate was right on the button. 681 estimated tongue weight plus 100 pounds for a good WD hitch = 781 pounds total hitch weight. Your actual total hitch weight was 780 pounds. Good job of estimating!
So with the trailer axles and the trailer tongue jack on the scale, but without the tow vehicle, the trailer grossed 5,240?
Total hitch weight.
If you had to estimate, you'd estimate it a 5240 @13% = 681 tongue weight, then add the weight of your WD hitch. But you don't have to estimate because you have the actual weights.
If the trailer axle weight was 4,460 and the gross trailer weight was 5,240, then your hitch weight is the difference, or 780 pounds.
So in your case, the estimate was right on the button. 681 estimated tongue weight plus 100 pounds for a good WD hitch = 781 pounds total hitch weight. Your actual total hitch weight was 780 pounds. Good job of estimating!
Trailer axle weight with WDH hooked up was 4460. TT unhooked from the truck was 5240 so the tongue weight is 780 (5240-4460). The WDH is still another 100lb so it would be 880 against the payload of the truck.
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