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Old May 17, 2014 | 01:26 AM
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I have a 2012 FX4 Screw with the max tow package and the ecoboost, I'm running a 5star on the 91 perf/tow setting. My wife and I are looking at getting a Crossroads Zinger 30KB trailer. The dry weight is 6714, GVWR is 9562 and the hitch weight is 878. Total trailer length is 33'10". I would be using a load levelling hitch to pull. My question is do many of you pull trailers this large and will my tuck handle it? Thanks for any and all help!
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Old May 17, 2014 | 07:14 AM
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Yes it will handle it.

Here's a tip. Make sure the trailer. Has an even number of wheels.. Otherwise it won't pull as well.
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Old May 17, 2014 | 08:59 AM
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Look at several stickers on your truck.

There are two on the door - one will have the GVWR and the front and rear GAWR axle limits; the other has the payload capacity ("the combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed: xxxx lbs").

The payload capacity of the truck is empty except for a full gas tank. If you've added a bed liner, bed cover, etc., subtract that from the listed payload capacity to get what you can really carry.

The third sticker to look at is under your rear bumper and has the hitch ratings - for your Max Tow pkg it probably says max tongue weight for no WDH is 500 and max with a WDH is 1150 lbs.

Depending on options, I imagine your 4x4 has a payload capacity of 1300 to 1400 lbs.

If you load the trailer to 9000 lbs and it has a minimal 12% of that for tongue weight of 1080 lbs, you shouldn't be exceeding hitch or payload limits.

However, subtract that from your payload capacity to find what you can carry in the cab and bed - and you probably won't have much capacity left for people and stuff in the truck.

The EcoBoost should pull it just fine, but your payload will be very limited.
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Old May 17, 2014 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by KR Kodi

Depending on options, I imagine your 4x4 has a payload capacity of 1300 to 1400 lbs.

The EcoBoost should pull it just fine, but your payload will be very limited.
Well if he has a short box, w/MaxTow & a GVWR of 7650, I would say that his payload should be closer to 1800+#, because I have 1700# with my 157" wb.... Your short coming will be with what your receiver can handle which is 1150# with a WD system. 875*1.13=990ish

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Old May 17, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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The dry weight is 6714, GVWR is 9562 and the hitch weight is 878. .... My question is do many of you pull trailers this large and will my tuck handle it?
Lots of people overload their tow vehicles, and you'll probably be overloaded too, if you load the pickup and trailer with the normal stuff. If you don't haul much payload in the truck when towing, you'll probably run out of payload capacity with a trailer weight around 8,000 pounds. If you load the trailer to more than 8,000 pounds, or haul a truckload of people and stuff, you'll exceed the GVWR of that F-150 with the max tow pkg. Your dry hitch weight is 13% of the dry trailer weight, and you can expect that percentage to continue as you load the trailer.

When matching trailer to tow vehicle, I would cut off the trailer weight for your truck to tow at 7,000 pounds. Then you could load the truck with normal amount of people, pets, tools and other stuff without being overloaded. More than 7,000 pounds gross trailer weight and I would want the HD Payload package built into my F-150.

9,000 pounds gross trailer weight will have 1,170 pounds tongue weight. If you load the trailer to 9,500 pounds, that's 1,235 pounds of tongue weight. What is the max hitch weight rating of your receiver?

Will your F-150 handle that much trailer? Sure, it will pull that much trailer with no problem. That EcoBoost drivetrain is wonderful! But your suspension and brakes and probably your receiver hitch will be overloaded. So the truck will "handle" that much weight until something breaks because of being overloaded. Not safe. That's why they make the Heavy Duty Payload Package for F-150s, and that's why they make F-250s and F-350 SRWs.
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Old May 17, 2014 | 11:35 PM
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Mine is about 2 feet shorter. Weight is around 5800 dry (guessing around 6500-7000 loaded) with a lower tongue weight (about 675). It pulls it very well. I have the 3.73 axle ratio. You should have that or 3.55 with the Max tow package. Either will do fine. You will need a weight distribution hitch and sway control.

I would be careful with the tune. You will not need it and I do not like taking risks with my tow vehicle. You do not want to kill the engine hundreds of miles from home and a trailer to deal with.

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Old May 17, 2014 | 11:38 PM
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BTW. The maximum tongue wight allowed is around 1050lbs with wieght distribution, and only around 500-600 without it. Weight distribution is not optional with your tongue weight.
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Old May 18, 2014 | 09:37 AM
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The max payload says 1658lbs on the sticker, the GVWR says 7650lbs. I thought the hitch said 1500lbs with a wdh, but I will recheck that.
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Old May 18, 2014 | 09:46 AM
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mines 1150 on the max tow pkg..
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Old May 19, 2014 | 09:40 AM
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That does look the same. My mistake.
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