towing more than 5k (?) lbs without tow package - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

Go Back  Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans > Ford F150 Forums > Towing/ Hauling/ Plowing
towing more than 5k (?) lbs without tow package > towing more than 5k (?) lbs without tow package
Topic Sponsor
Towing/ Hauling/ Plowing Discuss all of your towing and/or cargo moving experiences here.

towing more than 5k (?) lbs without tow package

Reply

 
 
 
Old 04-14-2018, 09:20 PM
  #1  
bjw
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default towing more than 5k (?) lbs without tow package

I am considering ordering a Lariat without the tow package; I don't want the back up assist, I think is it silly and don't want to pay for it.. I intend to add a trailer brake controller and the front stabilizer bar. I don't have an example to verify, but believe that the max towing capacity for a 5.0 Lariat without the tow package is 5k lbs. The only thing in the tow package that seems to be capacity related are the front stabilizer bar and the aux transmission cooler. Can I not just add these items? I have to add the trailer break controller anyway. I am assuming that payload would be my limiting factor for a 7500lb trailer with a WDH.

Thanks for any insight.
bjw is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2018, 10:56 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
iknfixit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 136
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Default

Do factory brake controller and WDH and you’re fine at 7500. It just says 5k tow limit WITHOUT a WDH if I remember right.
iknfixit is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2018, 08:59 AM
  #3  
Senile member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Sarasota, FL area
Posts: 1,519
Thanked 282 Times in 212 Posts
Default

for resale purposes, why would you buy a lariat without any tow package at all? You're already spending $50k on a truck, what's another $750?

I mean, do any dealers even have a lariat on the lot without a tow package of any kind?
chimmike is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to chimmike For This Useful Post:
Simnut (04-15-2018)
Old 04-15-2018, 09:46 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 159
Thanks: 0
Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts
Default

The max tow package is the best value among the options. I can’t imagine not getting it. You’ll get the money back at resale
BadAltitude is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2018, 09:54 AM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 19
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by BadAltitude View Post
The max tow package is the best value among the options. I canít imagine not getting it. Youíll get the money back at resale
to get the max tow package don't you have to get the 3.5?
Catcher22 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2018, 10:04 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Ricktwuhk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 8,456
Thanked 2,438 Times in 1,587 Posts
Default

Unless you never plan on selling it, you need to think about features that a potential buyer wants, or where the lack of the feature would have them look elsewhere. People expect a Lariat to have certain features. Not having factory aux transmission cooler is simply a bad decision.

Backup Assist is a feature that many experienced towing people find very useful on long, tight driveways and boat ramps. People laugh at the tailgate assist step until they use it also.

Make sure you add a trailer brake controller, the trailer break controller is not recommended.
Ricktwuhk is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ricktwuhk For This Useful Post:
BCMIF150 (04-16-2018), chimmike (04-15-2018)
Old 04-15-2018, 02:04 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 5,690
Thanked 817 Times in 680 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk View Post

Make sure you add a trailer brake controller, the trailer break controller is not recommended.


ROFLMAO
acdii is online now  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to acdii For This Useful Post:
Ricktwuhk (04-15-2018)
Old 04-15-2018, 07:54 PM
  #8  
bjw
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Ricktwuhk

Solid advice on all points, thank you-
bjw is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2018, 08:22 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Chico, Ca.
Posts: 2,763
Thanked 412 Times in 340 Posts
Default

X2. Get the truck equipped and ready to tow. I woukd strongly recommend getting the TBC factory instalked. There's been issues with non-factory equipped trucks not having all the requisite wiring. Read the "2018 trailer brake control" thread in this section.
PerryB is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2018, 10:47 AM
  #10  
Grumpy Old Man
 
smokeywren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Midland County Texas, just west of the star in my avatar
Posts: 2,522
Thanked 655 Times in 524 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bjw View Post
The only thing in the tow package that seems to be capacity related are the front stabilizer bar and the aux transmission cooler. Can I not just add these items?
Assuming you're talking about a 2018 F-150, there is no such thing as an auxiliary tranny cooler. That was 2017. For 2018 the increased cooling capacity in the 53A towing pkg is achieved with

- higher capacity cooling fan

- higher capacity radiator.

The oil-to-water (OTW) tranny cooler has been moved to outside the radiator, and it's standard. Increased cooling is achieved by pulling more air through a bigger radiator, to suck the excess heat out of the water (coolant).

So yes, you can add that higher capacity cooling needed for towing by replacing the fan and radiator with the correct parts. But that, plus the cost of the front stabilizer, will probably cost you about the same as the option cost of the 53A towing pkg. So order the 53A towing pkg, and if you don't want to use the Pro Trailer Backup Assist, nobody says you have to use it.

Last edited by smokeywren; 04-16-2018 at 10:54 AM.
smokeywren is offline  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to smokeywren For This Useful Post:
Ricktwuhk (04-17-2018)

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: