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Old 01-15-2012, 02:08 PM
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What does your trailer weigh? How much weight do you have on the tongue?
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As posted earlier posted 5,568 + or - a few pounds and tung weight was 615 before lifting load levelers.
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Transfer some existing cargo in the trailer toward the tongue of the trailer. You are a bit light in tongue weight.

Shift 50-100 lbs to the front and see what kind of difference that makes for you.
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Old 01-15-2012, 05:54 PM
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I tried it already and no difference. I also tried to drop the levelers one link it it was really bad! Thanks for help.
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615 whitout load leveler would need levelers at all to me.

My toy hauler weight is 7000 to 7200lbs and I have ~1000tongue weight before the load leveler. and it haul very good.
All that on P tire at 32PSI.
with a regular friction anti sway.
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Originally Posted by gunfreak00
I tried it already and no difference. I also tried to drop the levelers one link it it was really bad! Thanks for help.
You're saying you shifted weight to the front? How much?

As long as the travel trailer is sitting either level or slightly nose down, and you have more tongue weight, and hitch is adjusted right, you have something going on.
Ought be time to get the travel trailer axles checked out for trueness in axles, whether they are arched correctly, etc.

I would also like to see some pix of your hitch setup, hooked and unhooked, plus an overall shot of the TT hooked up to the truck, preferably on level ground.
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:10 PM
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It is not a travel trailer.

I posted the axels were checked and true and trailer is only 2 years old.

I had my trailer guy set up the trailer and WD hitch. He has 20 years in the business, 2nd largest trailer dealer in the area and has sold me and my family 25 trailers and services them.

We shifted between 200 to 400 lbs but settled on 13% tung weight.

Different tires helped a lot and now it is a matter of the rear sinking and leveling it back up.

Maxpat82 what year, model, tow package do you have?
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Sorry, been on an rv forum all day.

Regardless, something is definitely screwey.

How about tires on the trailer? What are the chances of having a bad belt in a tire and inducing "radial tire pull"?

It is a condition that occurs more often than you realize. A good way to check is to swap tires from one side to the other. If the sway condition changes then you might have found a culprit.

Another way to check would be to go for a 10-20 mile ride and, using a infrared thermometer, check and note surface tread temps on each tire. They should be fairly close to each other in temp.

At same time, shoot each brake drum just to make sure you don't have a bearing going out.

Grasping at straws here, would still like to see some pix of your setup.
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Originally Posted by gunfreak00 View Post
As posted earlier posted 5,568 + or - a few pounds and tung weight was 615 before lifting load levelers.
Missed that one. 5500 lbs should tow very nice. I have pulled a similar size and weight box trailer with no weight distribution hitch and did not experience the same issues you did. It's a 2010 FX4 model and 500-550 lbs on the hitch compresses the rear enough to level out the truck without the front sticking up in the air.

You said you tried to bump the bars up one notch and your trailer was not level so you put it back. I'd go ahead and do it again, but readjust the hitch height so that the trailer is level.

With everything hooked up both your truck and trailer should be level. What type of suspension does your trailer have? Speaking from experience, a dual axle torsion suspension that is not level will tow very poorly.
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We had Carlisle tires on the trailer but after towing it for the second time, we had a blowout. Of course it was late, after a gunshow with all the guns in it, out in the middle of nowhere on a 2 lane country road with a 2 ' shoulder and no spare tire! For some reason I took the spare out of the truck bed that day but no more as we mounted one on the wall inside the trailer and check it often.

Last year when I took it in we seen a tire wearing funny so he took it off the rim and it did have issues with some separation so we swapped out all the tires for tourmasters as they do not carry the Carlisles anymore because of issues. 4 new tires, balanced and installed for $100 wasn't bad as it was just out of warranty. He checked the bearings at that time and there was no problems and when we adjusted the brakes last week there seemed to be no issues.

What have been interesting through this whole ordeal was the front end of the truck. It hardly moved what ever we did. With the trailer hooked up it went up only 3/4" however we positioned the load. When we split the difference as Ford states in the manual, the rear of the truck is down 2" or so. So I think I will install the air bags to level it out and they my help out when I go to my distributor and they drop a pallet of ammo in the back of the truck
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