Towing with 2.7L
#11
If you had a factory tow package, it would appear as a line item on your window sticker. Since it doesn't, Ford "notes" (which I take to be a recommendation) that your F150 should only tow 5000 lbs. See your owner's manual page 291 (or near it, version depending).
#13
Member
Hi Levi127
I have a 2017 2.7 eco 3.73 and very similar RV. Our GVWR package weight is about same . You should have no problem towing it. Here are my recommendations:
1. Tow it empty , no water in fresh and black water tank.
2. Get a good WD hitch with built in anti-sway .
3. If using P tires, air them up to the max as shown on the sidewall , this will also help with sway
4. I would also replace the rear shocks with Bilstein 4600 or similar
5. Get the OEM brake controller from Ford
Dont drive like a maniac and Happy camping
I have a 2017 2.7 eco 3.73 and very similar RV. Our GVWR package weight is about same . You should have no problem towing it. Here are my recommendations:
1. Tow it empty , no water in fresh and black water tank.
2. Get a good WD hitch with built in anti-sway .
3. If using P tires, air them up to the max as shown on the sidewall , this will also help with sway
4. I would also replace the rear shocks with Bilstein 4600 or similar
5. Get the OEM brake controller from Ford
Dont drive like a maniac and Happy camping
#14
Senior Member
I don't think this is going to be a no problem tow for the OP. Even after adding a brake controller, he's still stuck with a 1453lb payload.
IF the tongue weight is truly 750lbs dry, add two 20lb propane tanks (80lbs) and the WDH he's going to need to tow that safely at his payload rating, you're looking at 930lbs minimum on the tongue, no water, no suitcases, no batteries in the trailer, no toys in the bed. That leaves 523lbs payload. Subtract the driver weight. Wife? Kids? Dogs? Grill? Generator? Bikes? Kayaks?
Any way you dice it, this is going to be an overcapacity tow, or a near capacity tow that is stripped down to the bare necessities. Either way, it's not going to be an enjoyable drive, which for me defeats the purpose of taking time off. Then to further exacerbate the trip by having to leave things home?
I'd either foot the bill for a 3/4 ton, or seek out a more appropriate TT for my truck. Being near payload while pulling a larger sail doesn't help, either.
IF the tongue weight is truly 750lbs dry, add two 20lb propane tanks (80lbs) and the WDH he's going to need to tow that safely at his payload rating, you're looking at 930lbs minimum on the tongue, no water, no suitcases, no batteries in the trailer, no toys in the bed. That leaves 523lbs payload. Subtract the driver weight. Wife? Kids? Dogs? Grill? Generator? Bikes? Kayaks?
Any way you dice it, this is going to be an overcapacity tow, or a near capacity tow that is stripped down to the bare necessities. Either way, it's not going to be an enjoyable drive, which for me defeats the purpose of taking time off. Then to further exacerbate the trip by having to leave things home?
I'd either foot the bill for a 3/4 ton, or seek out a more appropriate TT for my truck. Being near payload while pulling a larger sail doesn't help, either.
#15
A lot of good advice here.....
Since you don't have the tow package, I would say this is not the right truck for this trailer. However, if you're not going far, keep it slow, no hills - you'll get there (safety and liability concerns are legit though). But if you want to travel the country, you should probably not use this trailer/truck combo.
Others have mentioned concern about payload....this is valid but there are ways you can work around the payload problem. Don't put anything in the bed of the truck - pack everything in the trailer as only 10-13% of the weight that you put into the trailer will be transferred to truck payload. A couple other ideas to help with payload would be to remove the tailgate, move the spare tire to the trailer, and perhaps have the family drive to the destination in another car so it's just the driver in the truck (people count as payload).
Since you don't have the tow package, I would say this is not the right truck for this trailer. However, if you're not going far, keep it slow, no hills - you'll get there (safety and liability concerns are legit though). But if you want to travel the country, you should probably not use this trailer/truck combo.
Others have mentioned concern about payload....this is valid but there are ways you can work around the payload problem. Don't put anything in the bed of the truck - pack everything in the trailer as only 10-13% of the weight that you put into the trailer will be transferred to truck payload. A couple other ideas to help with payload would be to remove the tailgate, move the spare tire to the trailer, and perhaps have the family drive to the destination in another car so it's just the driver in the truck (people count as payload).
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blkZ28spt (06-28-2019)
#16
Senior Member
Good info. I'll add that stuff in the trailer needs to be forward of the axles, so it's going to increase the tongue weight percentage depending upon where you stow gear. Only way to know is to weigh.
Family in a different vehicle? Maybe, if they're annoying as hell!
Family in a different vehicle? Maybe, if they're annoying as hell!
#17
Senior Member
Meanwhile the Ranger is rated for 750lbs tongue weight, 7500 towing, and 1800lbs payload. Might be a better option as well
Last edited by SoPoSassquatch; 06-27-2019 at 02:10 PM.
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jcb206 (06-28-2019)
#18
Senior Member
Just to emphasize what others have said already: under no circumstances should you tow that trailer without a brake controller. It would be both illegal and insanely idiotic for any half ton pick up.
I also agree that you do not have the proper truck to tow that weight. Even with a tow package you will likely exceed the payload capacity.
I also agree that you do not have the proper truck to tow that weight. Even with a tow package you will likely exceed the payload capacity.
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blkZ28spt (06-28-2019)
#19
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Hi Levi127
I have a 2017 2.7 eco 3.73 and very similar RV. Our GVWR package weight is about same . You should have no problem towing it. Here are my recommendations:
1. Tow it empty , no water in fresh and black water tank.
2. Get a good WD hitch with built in anti-sway .
3. If using P tires, air them up to the max as shown on the sidewall , this will also help with sway
4. I would also replace the rear shocks with Bilstein 4600 or similar
5. Get the OEM brake controller from Ford
Dont drive like a maniac and Happy camping
I have a 2017 2.7 eco 3.73 and very similar RV. Our GVWR package weight is about same . You should have no problem towing it. Here are my recommendations:
1. Tow it empty , no water in fresh and black water tank.
2. Get a good WD hitch with built in anti-sway .
3. If using P tires, air them up to the max as shown on the sidewall , this will also help with sway
4. I would also replace the rear shocks with Bilstein 4600 or similar
5. Get the OEM brake controller from Ford
Dont drive like a maniac and Happy camping
Exactly what I did. Upgraded shocks, got trailer brake controls, hauling empty, antisway bars and everything.