For those that tow beyond capacity, or without necessary driving skills
#11
Senior Member
Kind of odd that I googled the 2008 tow guide, lists Expeditions as 'up to 9200 lb' when properly equipped. Expeditions have always struck me as being closer to an F250 than an F150.
#12
Senior Member
Seen this a few times... Not sure what exactly happened but yes, bit of driver error and probably impropperly equipped with a correct wdh with anti-sway
#13
Senior Member
I'm one of those wannabe airplane "people" hehehe Aviation is my passion. I have flown many types but do not have any paper saying I'm a pilot. I do own my own fleet though...on X-Plane 11 A great thing to do when I want my mind to be sidetracked!
#14
I think a little bit of everything contributed to this accident:
- Likely lack of sway control
- Trailer length/weight
- Novice
- Wind
Even if weight is OK, that TT looks very long for a SWB SUV like an Expedition, so much more prone to loss of control and "tail wagging the dog".
edit: Saw a clearer version of the video. I'm certain driver accidently swerved, initiating sway. He kept fighting it (best idea is to let off gas, NO BRAKES, and gently add trailer only brakes). That is also WAY too much trailer for the Expedition (size not necessarily weight). My camper is same size - almost too much for 1/2 ton pickup.
- Likely lack of sway control
- Trailer length/weight
- Novice
- Wind
Even if weight is OK, that TT looks very long for a SWB SUV like an Expedition, so much more prone to loss of control and "tail wagging the dog".
edit: Saw a clearer version of the video. I'm certain driver accidently swerved, initiating sway. He kept fighting it (best idea is to let off gas, NO BRAKES, and gently add trailer only brakes). That is also WAY too much trailer for the Expedition (size not necessarily weight). My camper is same size - almost too much for 1/2 ton pickup.
Last edited by ewdavis; 07-26-2017 at 08:30 PM.
#15
Super Duper Senior Member
I think I's want a Super Duty truck for a trailer that size. That what most of the people down here in FL use for them. SD trucks with goosenecks. We have a lot of snow birds (old people that come here for the winter, and go back north for the summer) that bring those with them.
#16
Senior Member
Should have grabbed the brake controller and applied the trailer brakes, would have straightened it out.
I had the same issue a couple of years ago, driving down the interstate, trees on both sides, suddenly I was in a clearing and a strong crosswind just started pushing me around. The trailer started to sway, I grabbed on the brake controller and got everything back under control in a matter of a second.
I had the same issue a couple of years ago, driving down the interstate, trees on both sides, suddenly I was in a clearing and a strong crosswind just started pushing me around. The trailer started to sway, I grabbed on the brake controller and got everything back under control in a matter of a second.
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#17
Senior Member
Almost certainly. Unfortunately a lot of people don't understand all the dynamics involved and respond in a solo-vehicle fashion. A little presence of mind coupled with good situational awareness can preclude a lot of heartache and tragedy.
#20
Definitely too much trailer for that vehicle. In the stills it looks to be about a 35' trailer, more than I would pull behind my F150. At the bare minimum a 157" WB would be about right for that size of a trailer.
Another case of even though you could, doesn't mean you should.
Another case of even though you could, doesn't mean you should.