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Old 07-19-2018, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jbone36
My only truck mods that I feel would hurt my MPG’s are my 305/45R22’s …
Those big feet are a big cause of reduced MPG per the dashboard display. They are taller and wider than stock-size tires. The taller diameter screws up the speedo accuracy and results in the computer giving inaccurate MPG results because the computer thinks you have traveled fewer miles than actual. And the tires are one inch wider than stock, which causes increased mechanical drag where the rubber meets the road, and increased aerodynamic drag as those wider tires plow through the air.

With my stock-size tires, my speedo is accurate compared to GPS MPH, and the MPG display is very close to accurate compared to careful hand calculation using trip meter miles and actual gallons and tenths per the gas pump.

... or my MBRP exhaust.
If that's a cat-back system, it should have minimal effect on MPG. If it's an illegal manifold-back system without a catalytic converter it should help MPG.
Old 07-19-2018, 12:59 PM
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It's speed and drag. I bet the guy claiming 15 wasn't running 70 plus. Probably 55-60. As stated above, those ramps are basically a sheet of plywood standing straight up.
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Take the trailer tailgate/ramp of and slow down some and you will see a pretty good improvement. Your tires aren't doing you any favors but you already know that because it affects your unloaded mileage too. That part of 75 sees some pretty constant crosswind, normally not a ton of head wind but it doesn't help either.
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I just made my annual vacation trip towing my roughly 6k aluminum jet boat full of 50 gallons of fuel and food, drinks, clothes and toys and would guess my actual payload including the boat was roughly 7k plus the fully gassed truck. The trip involve going from Sacto Ca to Lake Almanor via highway 70. Sacto is at sea level and the peak elevation was roughly 4800 feet. It was 390 mile round trip and were somewhat lighter on the way home. There are also some 6% grades on the trip but they are at about 2000 foot elevation. Speed on trip was about 60-62 on the flats which is roughly 80 miles of each leg. In the hills and in the canyon it is somewhat windy road but speeds vary from 40 to 60 MPH. My average fuel economy during the complete round trip was 12.6 according to meter in dash and i would guess calculated would be roughly 12.4 or so as that is usually the difference when i hand calculate. My truck is a 2018 Lariat SC FX4 with 3.5, 3.55 rear and only 2500 miles or so on truck. I left unit in tow/haul mode entire trip including the flats. My air conditioning was on the whole time and the air temps were in the low to mid nineties both directions. I also only use 87 octane fuel same as i did in 13 which was same truck with 6 speed trans only difference. I also dont baby the truck as i was pulling the 6% percent grades as curves in the road would allow 50-60MPH.
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Originally Posted by chimmike
1600-1800rpm tells me you're running in 8th or 9th gear. That's part of it. 8th gear is still not an OD gear. if you can get it to hold 9th when towing, that's good and will cut mpg by at least 1-2.

Trailer hubs greased well? I've also found that the truck tire pressure makes a difference. I air my hankooks up to max pressure when towing. That's helped both stability and mpg.
8th is OD. 10th is .63, 9th is .68, 8 is .85 and 7 is 1:1.
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My city MPG's are low 16's. I'm set to do 140 highway miles w/o the trailer (and 1 suit case) in the morning so I'll see what it tells me.

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MPG’s during majority of my 140 hwy miles this morning were between 19.5-22 @ 75-80mph @ 1600-1800 RPMs, 9th or 10th gear. It’s crazy to me that the trailer ramp is keeping me down that bad.
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My 5.0 with 6 speed is getting 10-11 MPG pulling a trailer that's about 5,000 lbs, dual axles and not at all aerodynamic. Try calculating by the old fashioned method when refilling after a tow, and I bet it will go up at least 2-3 MPG.
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Originally Posted by jbone36
MPG’s during majority of my 140 hwy miles this morning were between 19.5-22 @ 75-80mph @ 1600-1800 RPMs, 9th or 10th gear. It’s crazy to me that the trailer ramp is keeping me down that bad.
Takes very little, areo is not static, its compounding so a few mph or small drag change makes a big impact at that speed.
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That's exactly right, people don't realize how speed impacts there mpg. Aero drag is based roughly on the square of your speed. So the difference between 30 mph and 60 mph isn't twice the drag but closer to 4 times as great. Bump it up to 90 mph and the aero drag is nine times greater than at 30 mph. About the time I got my drivers license (1978) they dropped the speed limit to 55 mph to save fuel. It saves an amazing amount of gas to drive 55 mph, but it sure does suck if you are going a long ways on the interstate.


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