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HappyUSACamper 02-14-2019 05:52 PM

Rear suspension upgrade
 
I have two pics attached. Is the yellow piece the same concept as the black one sold on etrailer? Not sure of the actual name but it I believe it stops the bed from bottoming out. I want to beef up rear for the camper but am wondering if the yellow part from Ford already doest this. Dont want to waste money on redundant part. Just bought my truck and it has the trailer package with upgraded front stabilizer bar so was wondering if this yellow piece is stock or part of the trailer package. Just seems like the bed would need drop quite a bit before the yellow part would help so maybe it has nothing to do with what I am trying to beef up.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...70877308df.jpg
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Meathead 02-14-2019 06:15 PM

The yellow part is the factory bump stop. This contacts the axle when the suspension is totally bottomed out. The other one replaces the factory one and will ride on the axle when you have a trailer hooked up. I have not used these. If my trailer tongue is that heavy , I use a weight distribution hitch.

HappyUSACamper 02-14-2019 07:58 PM

Equalizer
 
Thank you. Very helpful information. Maybe I will wait on these and see how the truck tows. I do have an Equalizer 4 Way sway bar WD. I am probably overthinking this right now as I am coming from a 2500 HD that only went down an inch when loaded. Maybe I will be okay. Will go on short trip first.

TerryD64 02-15-2019 12:33 PM

I have the timbrens on mine. I like 'em They keep the sag from getting too bad and are out of the way when unloaded.

I was trying to decide between air bags and timbrens/sumo springs. Having had airbags before I did nit want t hassle with airing up and down found the timbrens and decided on those. No Regrets, fire and forget solution.

chimmike 02-15-2019 02:23 PM

if the WDH is set up properly and connected properly when hitched up, the truck should remain level and not squat. IT will have to be re-set for your F150 as it's a different truck than your previous. I'd get a good gander at the WDH manual on how to set it up and hitch it up properly to put the load thru the bars.

MNgopher 02-15-2019 03:21 PM

I have the timbrens on my truck. They minimize the squat when towing a boat plus some payload in the bed. While I was within the weight limits, the squat was a bit too much for my liking. No WDH on a boat trailer either. The gap from the plate you mount with these to the rubber is much smaller than where the bump stop is to to the axle.

I will note that they work great when loaded up. When I am empty, there can be a stiffer bump when these make contact from not being in contact. Does not happen often, but it is noticeable.

Run-n-gun 02-16-2019 08:50 AM

I used SumoSpring Solo. Similar to Timbrens but a little softer. Mine are mounted with a 1" gap so unloaded ride is unaffected. I like them.

https://www.etrailer.com/Vehicle-Sus...id=20174058635

Maury82 02-18-2019 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Run-n-gun (Post 6095842)
I used SumoSpring Solo. Similar to Timbrens but a little softer. Mine are mounted with a 1" gap so unloaded ride is unaffected. I like them.

https://www.etrailer.com/Vehicle-Sus...id=20174058635

Thanks for this information, I will look further into these springs.

Tbhardy80 02-19-2019 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Maury82 (Post 6097955)
Thanks for this information, I will look further into these springs.


I have a set for sale (SumoSprings), if you decide that's the way you want to go. Only 10000 on them. They are really good for mid sized loads, but I got a bigger travel trailer and a dump trailer that traditional airbags will handle slightly better

HappyCamper'18 02-24-2019 04:08 PM

I've had the Timbrens on two different half tons and could definitely feel the difference. Keeps truck level and greatly reduced bounce and sway. (Did not use the spacer, so no issues when not loaded).

acdii 02-24-2019 06:50 PM

Timbrens and Sumo Springs are pretty much the same thing, just different manufacturers. They help stabilize the truck when loaded, and when empty (provided you don't use the 1" spacer like I did DOH!) they make no contact and have no effect on the ride when empty. I have 1500# ones, and they do help stiffen the rear when cornering, and take some of the bounce out when towing as well. Can't go wrong with them.

If you do put the spacer in with stock suspension, it contacts the axle and you can feel every single crack in the road.

waltheraustin 02-24-2019 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by acdii (Post 6106384)
Timbrens and Sumo Springs are pretty much the same thing, just different manufacturers. They help stabilize the truck when loaded, and when empty (provided you don't use the 1" spacer like I did DOH!) they make no contact and have no effect on the ride when empty. I have 1500# ones, and they do help stiffen the rear when cornering, and take some of the bounce out when towing as well. Can't go wrong with them.

If you do put the spacer in with stock suspension, it contacts the axle and you can feel every single crack in the road.

I did the same and after the test drive, I changed it. No thanks! With the inch gap, i still get some bumps that I hit but I'm changing shocks this week so I'm hoping it gets better

ryandoubleu 02-25-2019 09:12 AM

I just added some supersprings (ssa28) last week and they have helped tremendously. Very easy to install and really help when pulling my travel trailer which runs about 7k lbs. The springs have 2 sitting, I’ve got mine on the least preload and don’t even notice them but they did raise the rear about 3/4”. The rise wasn’t a big deal for me, as I had just put 2.5” spacers on the front end of the truck.

cgreencorn1 03-04-2019 07:07 PM

Airbags
 
I was debating between the timbrens and airbags. I purchased a set of loadmaster 5000 bags for my truck. I tow a horse trailer and camper in the summer on the weekends. I usually have the box of truck rounded with wood or other junk for the campground so I decide I would go with bags as I had no experience with either or prior to this. Very simple install and will pick up a cheap compressor to air up if I need to adjust. Good luck with your decision as either seem to be a great idea I just wanted the option to adjust ride height if I only have a lot of weight in box itself.

HappyCamper'18 03-05-2019 11:00 PM

Hello all, yes, from what I have researched...Timbrems and Sumos are the same thing, but different manufacturers. I know nothing about airbags, would love to hear more- pros and cons.
From what I have read, it is all about the payload rating from Ford...thoughts?

8100hd 03-06-2019 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by HappyCamper'18 (Post 6117792)
Hello all, yes, from what I have researched...Timbrems and Sumos are the same thing, but different manufacturers. I know nothing about airbags, would love to hear more- pros and cons.
From what I have read, it is all about the payload rating from Ford...thoughts?

If you don’t like the sag, buy a higher class truck. Most of those on here with high payload ratings still run some type of suspension enhancement.

luv2fish18 03-11-2019 10:14 AM

I added Timbrens for pulling a 21' bass boat. Before the rear end felt mushy and would sway with the boat back there, the Timbrens took care of it. Plus I went to 40 psi in the crappy factory Hankooks. They will be replaced this year on my 2016.


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