Desparodo

Anyone here pulling a fifth wheel rv with 2014 screw 4x4 5.0. Friend is thinking about buying mine and I'm hearing different stories concerning handling issues with this set up. The rv is a 24 foot model...26 feet overall and weight is 6300. I have the regular in box fifth wheel hitch but I'm thinking he will need a slider style hitch. I don't want to sell someone trouble so I would like to hear from anyone with anything close to this set up.

JCR 56

For a fifth wheel I would want at least a 250, but that's just my preference.

RLXXI

Depends on your particular equipment but 5th wheel towing is very doable.
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DarrinT04

it is doable. but I feel the same way as JCR 56 about towing 5th wheel/gooseneck with a 1/2 ton truck

clarkbre

Just looking at the 2014 F150 towing guide from Ford, based on a 5.0 Screw 4x4, it is rated to tow anywhere from 7500 (6.5' bed, 3.55 gear) to 9300 (5.5' bed, 3.73 gear) with a payload range from 1570 to 2330.

The other major concern would be actual weight of the RV, pin weight and payload capacity of the truck.

Actual weight: Is the RV listed at 6300 dry or is that the GVWR or is that a scaled weight?
Pin weight: This is going to be right about 20% of the actual weight of the trailer. 6300 x .20 = 1260 pin weight
Payload Capacity: What can the truck safely be loaded down with? For quick math, take the number listed on the driver door jamb sticker, and start subtracting. Payload - pin weight - hitch - truck occupants - gear = greater than 0. If it turns out negative, it's overloading the truck.

Putting it into numbers, your average payload for that truck might be 1800:
1800 (Payload) - 1260 (Pin) - 110 (Hitch) - 350 (occupants) - 100 (Gear) = -20 (Overloaded)

Desparodo

I've pulled it with my 2006 scab 5.4 and now my 2017 scab 5.0 both had tow package with 3:55 gears with no problem. Just looking into this for a friend and possible buyer.

Flamingtaco

I'd say no. If he loads the trailer up with 1500lb worth of batteries, propane, water, gear, etc., you're looking at a 1560 pin weight. That doesn't leave much payload for even a lightly optioned XLT. I would overweight my 2015 XLT with no other gear or people. Unless your 2014 is a HDPP, I'd suggest a different truck or trailer for your friend.

Yes, get a slider. Even if the front of the trailer is a perfect half-circle, you never know when you're going to need to back a trailer to an angle that approaches 90º.

shutt40

Well you know more about the trailer than any of us. Does your friend have a 6.5' box or a 5.5' box? If he has the 6.5' box then it will be the same as your SCAB. If he has the 5.5' box then he will need a slider hitch. That will add another 150lbs or so to his total weight on the truck. If he has the available payload to handle the extra weight it should be fine. It all comes down to payload. Pin weight plus 180lbs for a standard hitch or pin weight plus 300 lbs for a slider. Factor in everything else he is going to carry in the truck subtract from available payload and you have your answer.
Did you ever weigh your rig when towing it to know the actual pin weight?

shutt40

Not all 5th wheels are 20%pin weight. Mine is around 17% empty or loaded.
Being able to turn 90 deg is not the be all to end all. You can't turn 90 with a bumper pull and it's hard on the trailer. It puts a lot of stress on the axles and suspension. A slider is a must in the 5.5 box not so in the 6.5 box. If you can turn 80 deg that's more than enough for any forward turn, just use some care when backing.

TerryD64

Agree with shutt on pinweight, mine is typically 18.5% BUT 20% is a decent number to use when trying to figure things out and if the loaded weight is not known.

I totally agree on 90 degrees. Turning 90 degrees is hard on the trailer and unrealistic. Not sure where the 90 degree hang up got started. While I can turn 90 I have never had occasion to do so beyond a test. and have to fins a campground where that degree of turning is required. The real question is can you turn enough without contacting the back glass. ALL 5th wheels will eventually contact the cab if turned too tight. the glass is just easily damaged and expensive to replace.

A slider hitch may not be required. I use a B&W turn over ball and the Andersen Ultimate 5th wheel Connection. Total weight approx 75 pounds (40 for the turn over ball, 35 for the hitch) the Andersen can be configured to add up to 9 additional inches of clearance. This is not everyone's cup of tea but way lighter than a slider. Specific measurements can be taken to determine if a slider is required or not.

This is NOT meant to start a debate on the Andersen hitch. Plenty of Internet forums out there for that. Just stating it as an option. I believe Pullrite has a similar hitch now as well.