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,, Problem is, even though the gooseneck would give me more room as a house on wheels that Im going to build, it'll be about 9k lbs by the time it's done when my truck is rated for 7800.
2015 SCREW 4x4, 3... something gear.. maybe 3.55\
No such thing as a 2015 SuperCrew 4x4 with 2.7L EB engine with a tow rating of 7800. If you have the mid-payload upgrade pkg and the 145" wheelbase (shorty bed) and 3.73 axle ratio, then your tow rating is 7,900. Anything less and your tow rating is 7,300.
For a while now I have been incredibly tempted to buy an F350 with all options I'd want. Problem is, it would set me back 78k in a truck loan. Im trying to get out of debt so that is something I'd like to add to the equation too.
I'm a huge fan of getting (and staying) out of debt. I haven't owed anyone for anything for over 20 years.
But I'm also a fan of safe towing without exceeding any of the weight limits of the tow vehicle manufacturer. The Ford tow rating of 7,900 is overstated for 99% of us. The real world tow rating based on not exceeding the payload capacity of the tow vehicle is probably closer to 6,000 pounds. So a 9k gooseneck trailer with 20% hitch weight is probably going to severely overload your poor little F-150.
Originally Posted by mmmkaay
Sounds like then 1800 will be placed on the rear axle (if it ends up weighing in at 9k) plus any cargo weight which will be 2100 (over weight now)
Let me ask everyone this... what if I work backwards calculating all of this? Ex:
Weight of cargo and occupants should never exceed 1442 lbs.
Cargo weight will be 300 lbs.
Leaving 1142 lbs.
And if 1142 lbs is 20% of my GN
Then total trailer weight then would make 5,710 lbs the maximum. (1142x5=5710)
And since GCWR is 12800, I might be OK (truck=6500, trailer=5710 for combined of 12,210)
Is this right?
Your numbers are right, but your logic is based on hope. The GCWR and tow rating aren't very important. What's important is the GVWR and payload capacity of your truck. Your limiter will be the actual payload capacity of your F-150. Keeping the weight in the F-150 down to 300 pounds, and keeping the total hitch weight down to 1,142 is critical.
If you plan to go that way, then maybe do not haul any weight at all in the trailer. Weigh the project as you go along and don't allow the trailer weight to exceed 5,700. Tow the empty trailer + camper shell to the parking place, then add the appliances and bedding and other items that weigh more than a handkerchef. Nothing at all in the truck except you. Then make additional trip(s) to haul other stuff to the trailer.
But I would revisit the decision to go with a gooseneck trailer. Your limiter is hitch weight, and a tag trailer has ~13% tongue weight plus 100 pounds for a good WD hitch, A gooseneck trailer has at least 20% hitch weight, plus another 100 pounds for the gooseneck hitch installed.
Example: Tag trailer grossing 6,000 pounds will have hitch weight of ~780 pounds + 100 = 880.
Properly loaded Gooseneck trailer grossing 6,000 pounds would have hitch weight of at least 1,200 pounds + 100 pounds = 1,300, and probably more. That extra 420 pounds of hitch weight is not a good for your tow vehicle that is severely limited for payload (including hitch weight) capacity.
Plus gooseneck trailers weigh a lot more than a comparable tag trailer because the gooseneck weighs a lot more than the tongue of a tag trailer.
Will electric brakes on the GN make a difference?
No. But most states require brakes on any trailer over 1,500 pounds. So don't even think about towing that trailer without trailer brakes. Perhaps the easiest way to add trailer brakes to a trailer is to replace the axles with axles that already have the brakes installed. https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Axl...-ST-EZ-89.html
Holy cow, thank you for the reply. Let me recalculate this then.
Truck has 1442 as max load weight
Minus 300 cargo weight
Which leaves 1142
Minus 100 which leaves 1042
Or a total GN weight of 5,210. (1042x5 as 1042 is 20% then)
I found a GN trailer, a 14ft'er. I believe it's weight would be approximately 1800-2200 but need to find out for sure.
Also per Ford for my truck:
Maximum fifth wheel towing: 7300
Maximum conventional towing: 7600
It all depends on the trailer. I towed a GN with my 13 5.0. My trailer was designed with much less than 20% on the pin. With max pin, it had 1200 on the pin or less. Loaded with horses and gear the pin dropped to 980 as the horses were all at or behind the axles. The trailer as pictured below was at about 9k, the truck was over GCWR but inside payload and axle ratings but just barely.
11-23-2017, 04:44 PM
