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Old 11-03-2018, 10:05 PM
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Hey guys, my truck's yellow sticker door jamb sticker states 1946lb payload. I was at a friend's today and was just curious what his was as it's a 2014 and his sticker states 1400 lb pay load. I mentioned I was surprised as he has 3.73 gears his payload wasn't higher and he said that's only based on the factory tires and that now that he has 10 ply tires his payload is higher. I was under the impression the yellow sticker is basically calculating GVWR minus the factory truck's weight regardless of what tires you use.
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You can NOT change the payload rating...or ANY other rating on a vehicle , in any way.......short of getting it re-engineered and stamped! As to why your payload rating is different than your...there is not near enough information stated for anyone to "analyze". Year of truck? Trim Package? Model? WB? Engine? and the list goes on....
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In short: your buddy is WRONG
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Originally Posted by Gasser55 View Post
he said that's only based on the factory tires and that now that he has 10 ply tires his payload is higher.
He's wrong. Payload is GVWR minus the weight of the truck when it exited the assembly line.

I was under the impression the yellow sticker is basically calculating GVWR minus the factory truck's weight regardless of what tires you use.
You're right.. To change the payload requires you to change the GVWR, And changing the GVWR is an expensive and drawn-out procedure. Usually, changing the GVWR and getting it certified costs more than upgrading trucks to one that already has the payload capacity you need.
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Thanks for clarifying that, he's an engineer so I started second guessing my self.
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Originally Posted by Gasser55 View Post
Thanks for clarifying that, he's an engineer so I started second guessing my self.
being an engineer whose customers are also engineers, they can be kinda dumb sometimes.

if he doesn’t have max tow package then his truck will have lower payload then yours. If his truck does have max tow, but is higher trim(would have to be an absolutely loaded platinum to be that low I think) then it will be lower.

my 2014 supercrew long bed Lariat with max tow has a 1560 lb payload to give you a reference but that is about the same as similarly option 2015+ trucks.
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In fact it is possible that those 10 ply tires reduce his available payload if they weigh more than the factory tires.
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Originally Posted by smokeywren View Post
... the weight of the truck when it exited the assembly line.
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Is this what's considered curb weight? Or is that something different? I've often been confused with this terminology.
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In fact it is possible that those 10 ply tires reduce his available payload if they weigh more than the factory tires.
...and just to be clear.
There's no such thing as "10 ply" tires anymore. What he might be referring to is "10 ply rated" tires. It's the load index that determines the tire's load capacity.
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In fact it is possible that those 10 ply tires reduce his available payload if they weigh more than the factory tires.
Mmm, not absolutely sure, but I don't think changing unsprung weight, i.e., tires, wheels, axles, reduces the payload. Pretty sure that's a sprung weight rating, so anything carried by the springs and frame. Nearly all of the time, tire loading capacity is well above the payload rating.
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