Gasser55

Hey guys, my truck's yellow sticker door jamb sticker states 1946lb payload. I was at a friend's today and was just curious what his was as it's a 2014 and his sticker states 1400 lb pay load. I mentioned I was surprised as he has 3.73 gears his payload wasn't higher and he said that's only based on the factory tires and that now that he has 10 ply tires his payload is higher. I was under the impression the yellow sticker is basically calculating GVWR minus the factory truck's weight regardless of what tires you use.

Simnut

You can NOT change the payload rating...or ANY other rating on a vehicle , in any way.......short of getting it re-engineered and stamped! As to why your payload rating is different than your...there is not near enough information stated for anyone to "analyze". Year of truck? Trim Package? Model? WB? Engine? and the list goes on....

Sweetlou

smokeywren

He's wrong. Payload is GVWR minus the weight of the truck when it exited the assembly line.

You're right.. To change the payload requires you to change the GVWR, And changing the GVWR is an expensive and drawn-out procedure. Usually, changing the GVWR and getting it certified costs more than upgrading trucks to one that already has the payload capacity you need.

Gasser55

Thanks for clarifying that, he's an engineer so I started second guessing my self.

mass-hole

old_programmer

In fact it is possible that those 10 ply tires reduce his available payload if they weigh more than the factory tires.

schmenke

Is this what's considered curb weight? Or is that something different? I've often been confused with this terminology.

schmenke

...and just to be clear.
There's no such thing as "10 ply" tires anymore. What he might be referring to is "10 ply rated" tires. It's the load index that determines the tire's load capacity.

icantdrive55

Mmm, not absolutely sure, but I don't think changing unsprung weight, i.e., tires, wheels, axles, reduces the payload. Pretty sure that's a sprung weight rating, so anything carried by the springs and frame. Nearly all of the time, tire loading capacity is well above the payload rating.