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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 07:28 PM
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I have a 2015 Super Crew 2.7 Eco. I hauled a pallet (ton) of stove pellets and the bed sagged, ALOT. I believe the capacity is 2250 in the book. It was significantly more sag than my 2004 F150 SCREW did. I also notice it when I tow my 20 ft camper (403lb hitch weight) the hitch and bed sag. What are some good solutions for these issues? Helper springs? Air bags? Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 07:31 PM
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Ignore the book.

Open your door and read the yellow payload sticker. You were likely 400 or more pounds over.

Have you weighted your camper tongue when loaded?
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 07:42 PM
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I will read the sticker. Thanks for the heads up. Hope I didn't break something. And no, I have never weighed the tongue of the loaded camper. Think it is probably more than 400lbs?
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 07:47 PM
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I assumed you read it off a brochure. That is the unloaded weight before batteries, propane, water.

You can go to a CAT scale and weigh the trailer and truck loaded up. Then just the truck. Sounds like you're not using a wdh?

You can also weigh the trailer tongue using a scale, pipes, etc. Ways to weigh tongue.

Over 500 pounds you need a wdh.
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 07:52 PM
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All good points. Thank you. No, I dont currently use a WDH.
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 07:55 PM
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Using one, if needed, will reduce the weight at the hitch and reduce squat.
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KelbyMowery
I have a 2015 Super Crew 2.7 Eco. I hauled a pallet (ton) of stove pellets and the bed sagged, ALOT. I believe the capacity is 2250 in the book. It was significantly more sag than my 2004 F150 SCREW did. I also notice it when I tow my 20 ft camper (403lb hitch weight) the hitch and bed sag. What are some good solutions for these issues? Helper springs? Air bags? Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
You do know if you bought a 2.7L Ecoboost, it comes with a light duty frame and suspension. You only get the regular frame and suspension when you buy a 3.5L Ecoboost or 5.0L engine OR get the 2.7L Ecoboost Payload Package. That's why it was likely squatting more than your 2004 F150.

You're probably overloading the rear axle with the pallet. Payload is everything in the truck including passengers. I skipped a 2.7L Ecoboost because of the low payload when I bought my previous 2016 F150. I needed it to tow my travel trailer.

If using a weight distribution hitch doesn't correct your sag, your axle and suspension may be to weak to tow that trailer.

Hopefully a weight distribution hitch will make it work.

I'm assuming you weighed your tongue weight to know it's 403 lbs. Many people recommend a weight distribution hitch with over 400 lbs tongue weight and Ford says it's required over 500 lbs. I always thought my 2016 F150 rear suspension was much stronger than either my 2010 or 2012 F150 rear suspensions but I had a 5.0L engine in my 2016 with the HD Frame and had 3450 lbs rated front axle and 3800 lbs rated rear axles.

My previous WDH

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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 08:45 PM
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That pallet was probably, for sure over 2000lbs.

Remember these are light duty trucks...there will be sag!
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 09:01 PM
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75 bags at 40lbs each... 3000lbs for a skid of pellets I did it once ...and I have timbrens....never again....I could hear my axle bearings rolling inside the tube
www.f150forum.com/f82/i-dont-recommend-458931/

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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 10:24 PM
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So much of weight ratings is about towing now that the principles of UDL (Uniform Distribution Load) has been forgotten or overlooked for hauling. Where was that pallet located on the bed? For pallets, the generally accepted practice is to put two thirds of the pallet forward of the axle. Too often people don't know to or are too impatient to remove the tail gate so the lift can load the pallet this far forward on the bed. When this is done the truck may still sag but the steering and braking will be much better than when the pallet just fits on bed.
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