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Padlocks - Avoid Master Locks

Old 11-02-2017, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by E. Manuel
A cutting torch is much quieter than a die grinder.
If someone is going to bring a cutting torch to the party, they have a level of commitment that is likely to be successful unlesss they attract a lot of attention. Even bank vaults can be opened if a motivated, skilled thief is given enough time alone with them.

The problem with Master Locks is that they provide very little security to people who don’t know about the problems with their products. While a common criminal probably can pick one with a zip tie, he/she probably can pull off at least one of these: https://m.wikihow.com/Open-Master-Locks

For a few dollars more (and sometimes less), there are similar locks from a myriad of companies that provide a reasonable level of security. At the very least, they will slow the thieves down.
Old 11-02-2017, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleFester
If someone is going to bring a cutting torch to the party, they have a level of commitment that is likely to be successful unlesss they attract a lot of attention. Even bank vaults can be opened if a motivated, skilled thief is given enough time alone with them.

The problem with Master Locks is that they provide very little security to people who don’t know about the problems with their products. While a common criminal probably can pick one with a zip tie, he/she probably can pull off at least one of these: https://m.wikihow.com/Open-Master-Locks

For a few dollars more (and sometimes less), there are similar locks from a myriad of companies that provide a reasonable level of security. At the very least, they will slow the thieves down.
A good number of service trucks have cutting torches on the back, in the bed of the truck, and wouldn't draw a lot of attention. As far as commitment, they drive around with them all the time, just part of their job equipment. And what would a high priced lock slow them down by? A few seconds, if at all?

Not saying service guys are thieves and go around looking for locks to cut, but it would be easy for someone who is a thief to do so even on the $100 padlocks. Then you're out the $100 on top of whats stolen.
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Originally Posted by E. Manuel
A good number of service trucks have cutting torches on the back, in the bed of the truck, and wouldn't draw a lot of attention. As far as commitment, they drive around with them all the time, just part of their job equipment. And what would a high priced lock slow them down by? A few seconds, if at all?

Not saying service guys are thieves and go around looking for locks to cut, but it would be easy for someone who is a thief to do so even on the $100 padlocks. Then you're out the $100 on top of whats stolen.
I get your point, but a $100+ lock is not necessary to improve on Master Locks.

This $23
Stanley Stanley
is objectively better than the typical Master Lock. The only thief a Master Lock will Stop is a dumb and/or lazy thief.

The Stanley is a Honda Accord. Master Locks are 1972 Ford Pinto Wagons with old breaks.
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Are Stanley locks like most Stanley products made in China?
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Originally Posted by bubbabud
Are Stanley locks like most Stanley products made in China?
Probably. My best friend used to work for Stanley. Although they still produce some tools in New Britain (not far from my home), he said they have production facilities all over the world. I don’t think they make padlocks in CT.

Generally, the best padlocks are made by European firms with their “best” models made there. Cheaper models are made In China.
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With my Milwaukee M18 cordless cutoff tool I can cut any lock, cable or chain that you might have.

BTW, Brinks locks aren't any better than Masterlock
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I remember having someone either mistakenly or intentionally (never figured out which) put their lock on my locker in high school. The physical plant guys were missing their bolt cutters, so I borrowed a largish hammer and a pry bar, put the pry bar on top of the lock itself (not the hasp), and had the lock forcibly opened with minimal signs of damage after two hits.

I've never put a whole lot of faith in a Master lock since, but I'm also of the mindset that if you park next to someone with a nicer trailer that doesn't have a lock on the coupler at all, that's better anti-theft insurance than putting any lock on your trailer.

(and I try to mostly spend time in places where thefts of opportunity are small risk but prepared and determined thieves are fewer and farther between)
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The ultimate security, guaranteed to be theft proof, is to weld the hitch to the receiver, and weld the latch on the coupler. Aint no way they can steal it then!

You can only secure it so much, if someone is determined to take something, locks wont stop them.
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Originally Posted by acdii
The ultimate security, guaranteed to be theft proof, is to weld the hitch to the receiver, and weld the latch on the coupler. Aint no way they can steal it then!

You can only secure it so much, if someone is determined to take something, locks wont stop them.
Actually, in that case, you'll also want to weld the ball or the nut for the ball to the hitch, too.
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Originally Posted by acdii
The ultimate security, guaranteed to be theft proof, is to weld the hitch to the receiver, and weld the latch on the coupler. Aint no way they can steal it then!
But what stops them from stealing the truck?

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