Good Morning,
My Wife and I would like to buy a
Starcraft..Telluride Fifth Wheel 289RKS
Gross Vehicle Weight (GVWR) …......9,995 lbs.
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (UVWR) ….7,528 lbs.
Dry Hitch Weight ...........1,340 lbs..
Exterior Length..............29' 11"

Is somebody tow this RV with a F150, 2018, Max Tow Package, 3.5 Ecoboost, 4x4, Crew Cab...?

Thank You...

 

At least Heavy Duty Payload package. Most F150s on the lot would barely have the payload for the pin weight alone, not including the 5th wheel hitch, and that doesn't even factor in weight for passengers and cargo.

Read some of the dozens of threads on here to get a better understanding of tow ratings/capacities and calculations.

 

What Chimmike said.

I'll just add that the heavy duty payload package (HDPP) is only available with the longer bed options and the XL, XLT (300a & 301a) or Lariat (500a) trims. The HDPPs are the only f150s that I would even consider for the 5th wheeler you mentioned.

That said - is there any reason you wouldn't go with an F250 gas or F350 SRW diesel? you should thoroughly investigate these options as well.

 

What they said. Don't even think about trying to tow a 10k gooseneck trailer with any F-150 that does not have the heavy duty pay load package (HDPP).

But you'll probably quickly notice that dealers don't stock F-150s with HDPP. And they are as rare as hen's teeth on the used truck market. If you want one, plan to order it and wait at least 8 weeks for delivery.

Or go to almost any big Ford dealer and buy an F-250 or F-350 SRW that will be in stock ready for you to hook up and go with that 10k trailer, with no restrictions of trim level or bed length. You want a luxury Platinum barge with all the toys in a CrewCab 4x4 with a shorty bed? You can get that in a SuperDuty SRW but not in an F-150 with HDPP.

I know about the order and built time of an F-150 HDPP, so I plan to order one as soon as the 2019 order bank is open, then wait however long it takes for Ford to schedule it for assembly, then build it and deliver it to my dealer. I hope to have it by New Years, but it will probably be a few weeks loner than that.

 

 

Although I'm fairly new to towing, IMHO the word "F-150 and 5th wheel" shouldn't be in the same sentence, unless it's one of those cool light ones I've seen recently....although I can't recall the make/model..sigh...getting old and senile

 

OK - so lots of folks have suggested and F250/F350. A gas F250 would work well or a diesel F350. Don't get the diesel F250 with a high trim level because the payload will likely be less than you'll want. If you're full timing or towing that 5th wheel often this is the way to go.

That said, here's the other side of the coin... 5th wheels are more stable in combination than a travel trailer. There are some on this site who have reported a good experience towing 8000-10,000 pound 5th wheels with F150s. There's even one guy that went with an even heavier triple axle and says it tows well. With the right F150, you can be well within all weight ratings.

Regular cab HDPP trucks can have payloads of 3,000+ pounds. And even a fully optioned Lariat 500a will have 2,250 pounds of payload.

If you are looking at towing this 5th wheel just a few times a year and want the empty ride, performance and MPG of an F150, then you'll want to order or find an HDPP truck.

There are some lower trim non-HDPP F150s that might seem to have enough payload, but they are not likely to have the rear GAWR to support a 5th wheel.

Finally, for full disclosure, you should understand that there is some debate over the pin weight rating on an F150 (any F150) being limited to 15% of the maximum 5th wheel tow rating (so on an HDPP crew cab about 1725 pounds). Ford has not published a specification on this. However, one member here contacted Ford and a rep told him that this is a limitation. I personally think Ford would be unsuccessful in court if they tried to get out of being liable for problems caused by being over this ~1725 pounds on pin weight if all published ratings were adhered to. But that is only my opinion and nobody will ever know for sure unless a liability issue actually goes to court. Note that the 5th wheel you asked about could exceed this ~1725 when wet/loaded.

 

I'm 79, and have severe CRS (can't remember stuff) too, but I remembered the name "Escape" and then while searching for Escape found Scamp. Note "molded fiberglass construction".

https://www.scamptrailers.com/showro...pped_rev_1_751

http://escapetrailer.com/trailers/the-5-0-escape/

The Escape 5er, made in Canada, sounds good, but it's heavy enough to overload most F-150s that are loaded with a family and minimum camping gear. With a hair over 15% pin weight and 5,500 pounds GVWR, the wet and loaded Escape 5.0 TA would probably overload my F-150. The newer F-150s with over 1,800 payload capacity could probably tow one without being overloaded if you were very careful about the weight you load into the tow vehicle.

The Scamp, made in the USA, is shorter and lighter (and therefore has less room inside). With only one 3,500 pound axle, max wet and loaded weight is probably about 4,000 pounds with ~500 pounds tongue weight. Even my older F-150 could tow that without exceeding any weight limits.

 

Ahh yes that's the one, thank you! Very cool indeed, although the exterior design isn't quite my cup of tea lol.

 

My link to the Scamp was to the TT. I edited that post and now the link to the Scamp is to the 5er.