acdii

It is only illegal if they misstate the ratings when applying for the registration. Federal laws apply to Commercial use and are consistent across the country, but private use is locked to the state of registration, so if your truck is plated legally in your state, no other state can force their registration laws on you. Gray area is commercial/private and DOT numbers. If you are towing your horses for pleasure, no DOT numbers required, no log books, none of that, but if towing for competition where prize money is involved, then it falls into that gray area of DOT and Commerce regs. This is where some get into trouble because they are unaware that if money is exchanged, then they are in CDL territory and a lot of states are diligent about cracking down on it. Even towing RV trailers can be sticklers. A single driver hauling a large 5th wheel or travel trailer, driving a 3/4 or 1 ton, in some states may be forced to scale, they could be assumed to be transporting instead of vacationing. Happens quite often in Nebraska, actually saw one get flagged while going through on I-80.

It used to be common practice here in Hellinois to put B plates on 3/4 and 1 ton trucks if they were for personal use, but they stopped that cold a couple years ago and require any vehicle over 8001 pounds GVWR, with the exception for RV, to have D plates up to 12,000 pounds. They also require a yearly inspection to be performed. Prior to the VID they were pulling 3/4 and 1 ton trucks over for any little thing just so they can check that the inspection tags are legal, my wife got pulled over doing 4 over, he let her go after seeing it was properly tagged.

An F350 Dually, and F450 require F plates due to it's GVWR of 14,000 pounds.

I perused a few F350's to compare GVWR between engines. 6.2 11,300 Screw LB and SB, 7.3 11,100, but verdict still out, only had two to look at so far and one was a RC 6 3/4 bed. All diesels except dually were 11,500.

So IOW, just because it has F350 stamped on it, doesn't mean it will have a lot of payload, as I found out myself. 3441 on mine is fine for us, but I did find it's limits for 5th wheel towing, conventional towing it has no limits, plenty of payload for that. Just have to look at the stickers to see what the GVWR package it has, and that will tell you how much possible payload it can have.

Apples

That's news.

Out here in California, granted, at least intra-state, those are only required at above 26,000.

I say "California" because we all know how egregious are other laws limiting personal freedom.

At the very least, my post serves to better illustrate the thread title.

Gene K

​​​​​​I only know because I live near a state line and a lot of contractors had 10,000 GVWR Trucks and 10,000 GVWR Trailers and the DOT starting setting at the state line and nailing them a few years ago for no DOT #, no Physical and no log book. It's Federal not State once it's commercial and crosses state lines. I even know a Hobby Farmer that got busted taking his tractor back from his deer lease to his farm (DOT said it was commercial since he was taking it to his farm and sometimes sold things at the farmers market) but the judge disagreed. 26,000 lb and under and 10,000 lb and under trailer gets you out of a CDL but not the others. Once you exceed 10,000 (Total) you are fair game.

Apples

Copy that, Gene! Hence my disclaimer "intra-state", or intrastate as opposed to interstate.

Glad to have you here. You've been very helpful.

mopar1970

A green window sticker is a customer ordered car. I saw a blue window sticker yesterday. Why would a dealer need a Special Order, can't they order what they want?

Gene K

OP stated it was a Customer Order that he didn't take. Could have been a mistake in Spec, he got tired of waiting and took a lot truck or Covid-19 job loss.

Mister C

According to the salesman (take this with a grain of salt), this vehicle was ordered but for whatever reason, it was never delivered to the original 'orderer'. This particular vehicle was on the lot for several months. It is a bit of an oddball, but suits our needs. Can't see a dealer ordering this guy.