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Old Jan 8, 2023 | 07:28 PM
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Needing to change out the OEM wranglers. Which, in my opinion, have been junk. 275/R55/20

Towing a 7000# travel trailer, with weight distribution hitch. No issues towing.

Looking for a good tire that will handle well on the highway towing, good in snow (live in Ontario Canada) but also decent on campground trials etc. Nothing too aggressive but do like the looks of some of the AT tires if they don’t compromise towing handling. I don’t do any off-road trail rides.

Dealer quoted Michelin Defender ATX M/S - not sure if these are much better than the Wranglers?

Others I have looked at:
Falken Wildpeaks AT/3WA
BFGoodrich KO2 TA
Cooper AT3 4S or XLT
Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus

Looking for any input or experience.





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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 06:44 AM
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I'm currently running the BFG's on mine and towing a 6000GVWR camper and they have been very good when towing but I am less than pleased about their manners in wet conditions. I've got about 40k miles on them and I think they are wearing a bit faster than the last set of tires (Nitto Ridge Grapplers) so I'm going back with the Nittos next time.

Best recommendation I can give is go with some E load tires for towing. Makes a huge difference on these trucks.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 09:36 AM
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FWIW
One friend in elk camp has been on a set of Michelin Defenders for a couple years now. I am impressed with their performance when the mud thaws out. And he says they are great on the road and in the rain, (SW thunderstorms).

His truck is a Colorado, so probably lighter than the F150. And he doesn’t tow.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 10:01 AM
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I immediately swapped out the factory tires in late 2020 with Cooper AT3 4S, same size as you 275/R55/20, didn't want to go heavy or bigger being fuel mileage minded and I don't need real aggressive.
Now have 42,000 miles on them, tread wear is good and they are quiet.
Have about 6,000 miles towing a 7,000# travel trailer with them, truck is at max GVWR loaded with trailer.
Tires are rated up to 50psi, daily driving I set them to 37psi, towing 47psi.
Copper AT3s have been great on my Tacoma as well, on the 3rd set with an average of over 60,000 miles per set.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 12:11 PM
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Thinking the same. They are rated for 2800# so rated total at over 11,000# - more that enough - my truck GVWR is 7,000# as well. Just keeping hearing you need E rated tires.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Goop;[url=[url
tel:7351176]7351176]Thinking[/url] the same. They are rated for 2800# so rated total at over 11,000# - more that enough - my truck GVWR is 7,000# as well. Just keeping hearing you need E rated tires.
Don’t *need* E rated tires. I think the heavier sidewalls flex less and make driving more comfortable. Plus less likely to damage a tire against a rock. Think unloaded I loose 1-1/2 to 2 mpg on KO2s. So there is that to consider too.

With E rated you get considerable more tread depth.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Macgyver007
I immediately swapped out the factory tires in late 2020 with Cooper AT3 4S, same size as you 275/R55/20, didn't want to go heavy or bigger being fuel mileage minded and I don't need real aggressive.
Now have 42,000 miles on them, tread wear is good and they are quiet.
Have about 6,000 miles towing a 7,000# travel trailer with them, truck is at max GVWR loaded with trailer.
Tires are rated up to 50psi, daily driving I set them to 37psi, towing 47psi.
Copper AT3s have been great on my Tacoma as well, on the 3rd set with an average of over 60,000 miles per set.
I tow similar as you, only have 18" wheels. Which sidewall load rating did you get. My stock Mich Primacy are a bit soft imo.
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 02:52 AM
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I hav 20" nitto terra grapplers G2 (117t XL)They are quiet on the highway and work well in soft sand. No experience in rain or snow. The have the highest load rating for P tires which, at 50 psi give a firm feeling while towing my ~6500 lb trailer.

I have 15,000 miles on them and would by them again.
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 06:05 AM
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You don’t need an E but going to a lighter weight XL is probably a good investment. Bumping up the psi while towing helps too.

You should put the Yokohama G015 on your list as well. Its a lightweight XL that hits all your wants.

Would avoid heavy and E for performance, comfort, and mpg reasons.

I bump up the PSI on our 1/2 ton work trucks my small business has had over the years and try to go to an ‘XL’ when replacing.

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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry_Vee
Don’t *need* E rated tires. I think the heavier sidewalls flex less and make driving more comfortable. Plus less likely to damage a tire against a rock. Think unloaded I loose 1-1/2 to 2 mpg on KO2s. So there is that to consider too.

With E rated you get considerable more tread depth.
LT tires have just under 3/16" more tread depth than p-metric. It's not a considerable amount, just enough to keep the mileage rating up when under heavier trucks.

I'll detail Ridge Grapplers on snow. They are excellent for a non-3 peak tire. I drove through Indiana and lower Michigan at the height of the wind that followed the snow before christmas, they performed much better than my expectations for an AT tire. At 39psi they gripped well, even on poorly plowed streets. I have yet to feel uncomfortable coming to a stop with them.
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