Need Your Calculations-Again
06-13-2019, 05:10 PM
#1
Need Your Calculations-Again
-Have 2019 STX.
-Ford Trler Hitch, max wt dist 11,600, max tongue 1160, max wt carry 5,000, max wt carry tongue 500.
-GVWR 6600
-Scaled weight with me, 26 gal gas 5280.
-Yellow sticker comb wt pf people, & cargo not to exceed 1672.
So the question is, what is the max trailer weight if using a weight Dist Hitch?
-Ford Trler Hitch, max wt dist 11,600, max tongue 1160, max wt carry 5,000, max wt carry tongue 500.
-GVWR 6600
-Scaled weight with me, 26 gal gas 5280.
-Yellow sticker comb wt pf people, & cargo not to exceed 1672.
So the question is, what is the max trailer weight if using a weight Dist Hitch?
06-13-2019, 08:28 PM
#2
Grumpy Old Man
Assuming just you and nobody and nothing else in the truck - so your wet and loaded truck full of gas grosses 5280 pounds - then GVWR 6600 minus 5280 = 1320 pounds max hitch weight. Oops! That overloads your receiver, so the max TW of your receiver is the limiter under those assumptions.
But you're not going to tow a travel trailer (TT) with nobody and nothing but you in the tow vehicle. So toss out those numbera and start over.
The first thing you need to know is payload capacity available for hitch weight. You won't find that number anywhere in the truck or on the internet, To get that number, you must load the tow vehicle with everybody and everything that will be in it when towing. Passengers,, pets, toys, tools, camping supplies. campfire wood? Dutch oven? patio carpet and furniture? Subtract the weight of the wet and loaded tow vehicle from the GVWR of the tow vehicle to get payload capacity available for hitch weight. Subtract another 100 pounds from the payload capacity available for hitch weight to get payload capacity available for tongue weight (TW). Divide the payload capacity available for TW by 13% (0.13) to get the max GVWR of any TT you want to consider,
"Sorry, Charlie" but there no short cuts if you want a good estimate of the max weight of a TT you can tow without being overloaded.
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06-13-2019, 08:57 PM
#3
Depends on the weight of your wet and loaded F-150 when loaded for towing on a trip.
Assuming just you and nobody and nothing else in the truck - so your wet and loaded truck full of gas grosses 5280 pounds - then GVWR 6600 minus 5280 = 1320 pounds max hitch weight. Oops! That overloads your receiver, so the max TW of your receiver is the limiter under those assumptions.
But you're not going to tow a travel trailer (TT) with nobody and nothing but you in the tow vehicle. So toss out those numbera and start over.
The first thing you need to know is payload capacity available for hitch weight. You won't find that number anywhere in the truck or on the internet, To get that number, you must load the tow vehicle with everybody and everything that will be in it when towing. Passengers,, pets, toys, tools, camping supplies. campfire wood? Dutch oven? patio carpet and furniture? Subtract the weight of the wet and loaded tow vehicle from the GVWR of the tow vehicle to get payload capacity available for hitch weight. Subtract another 100 pounds from the payload capacity available for hitch weight to get payload capacity available for tongue weight (TW). Divide the payload capacity available for TW by 13% (0.13) to get the max GVWR of any TT you want to consider,
"Sorry, Charlie" but there no short cuts if you want a good estimate of the max weight of a TT you can tow without being overloaded.
Assuming just you and nobody and nothing else in the truck - so your wet and loaded truck full of gas grosses 5280 pounds - then GVWR 6600 minus 5280 = 1320 pounds max hitch weight. Oops! That overloads your receiver, so the max TW of your receiver is the limiter under those assumptions.
But you're not going to tow a travel trailer (TT) with nobody and nothing but you in the tow vehicle. So toss out those numbera and start over.
The first thing you need to know is payload capacity available for hitch weight. You won't find that number anywhere in the truck or on the internet, To get that number, you must load the tow vehicle with everybody and everything that will be in it when towing. Passengers,, pets, toys, tools, camping supplies. campfire wood? Dutch oven? patio carpet and furniture? Subtract the weight of the wet and loaded tow vehicle from the GVWR of the tow vehicle to get payload capacity available for hitch weight. Subtract another 100 pounds from the payload capacity available for hitch weight to get payload capacity available for tongue weight (TW). Divide the payload capacity available for TW by 13% (0.13) to get the max GVWR of any TT you want to consider,
"Sorry, Charlie" but there no short cuts if you want a good estimate of the max weight of a TT you can tow without being overloaded.
1..6600...................GVWR
2..5610...................Scaled WT plus loaded with wife, food, ice chest, drinks, tools, chairs, stoves, me , and 26 gal gas
Subtract 2 from 1 = 990
990 - 100 hitch wt = 890
890 divided by 13% = 6846 lbs for trailer
any more comments.....appreciate it
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06-14-2019, 07:18 AM
#4
Thanks for that smokey....so how is this.....
1..6600...................GVWR
2..5610...................Scaled WT plus loaded with wife, food, ice chest, drinks, tools, chairs, stoves, me , and 26 gal gas
Subtract 2 from 1 = 990
990 - 100 hitch wt = 890
890 divided by 13% = 6846 lbs for trailer
any more comments.....appreciate it
1..6600...................GVWR
2..5610...................Scaled WT plus loaded with wife, food, ice chest, drinks, tools, chairs, stoves, me , and 26 gal gas
Subtract 2 from 1 = 990
990 - 100 hitch wt = 890
890 divided by 13% = 6846 lbs for trailer
any more comments.....appreciate it
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06-14-2019, 10:52 AM
#5
Depends on the weight of your wet and loaded F-150 when loaded for towing on a trip.
Assuming just you and nobody and nothing else in the truck - so your wet and loaded truck full of gas grosses 5280 pounds - then GVWR 6600 minus 5280 = 1320 pounds max hitch weight. Oops! That overloads your receiver, so the max TW of your receiver is the limiter under those assumptions.
But you're not going to tow a travel trailer (TT) with nobody and nothing but you in the tow vehicle. So toss out those numbera and start over.
The first thing you need to know is payload capacity available for hitch weight. You won't find that number anywhere in the truck or on the internet, To get that number, you must load the tow vehicle with everybody and everything that will be in it when towing. Passengers,, pets, toys, tools, camping supplies. campfire wood? Dutch oven? patio carpet and furniture? Subtract the weight of the wet and loaded tow vehicle from the GVWR of the tow vehicle to get payload capacity available for hitch weight. Subtract another 100 pounds from the payload capacity available for hitch weight to get payload capacity available for tongue weight (TW). Divide the payload capacity available for TW by 13% (0.13) to get the max GVWR of any TT you want to consider,
"Sorry, Charlie" but there no short cuts if you want a good estimate of the max weight of a TT you can tow without being overloaded.
Assuming just you and nobody and nothing else in the truck - so your wet and loaded truck full of gas grosses 5280 pounds - then GVWR 6600 minus 5280 = 1320 pounds max hitch weight. Oops! That overloads your receiver, so the max TW of your receiver is the limiter under those assumptions.
But you're not going to tow a travel trailer (TT) with nobody and nothing but you in the tow vehicle. So toss out those numbera and start over.
The first thing you need to know is payload capacity available for hitch weight. You won't find that number anywhere in the truck or on the internet, To get that number, you must load the tow vehicle with everybody and everything that will be in it when towing. Passengers,, pets, toys, tools, camping supplies. campfire wood? Dutch oven? patio carpet and furniture? Subtract the weight of the wet and loaded tow vehicle from the GVWR of the tow vehicle to get payload capacity available for hitch weight. Subtract another 100 pounds from the payload capacity available for hitch weight to get payload capacity available for tongue weight (TW). Divide the payload capacity available for TW by 13% (0.13) to get the max GVWR of any TT you want to consider,
"Sorry, Charlie" but there no short cuts if you want a good estimate of the max weight of a TT you can tow without being overloaded.
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06-14-2019, 10:53 AM
#6
Thanks for that smokey....so how is this.....
1..6600...................GVWR
2..5610...................Scaled WT plus loaded with wife, food, ice chest, drinks, tools, chairs, stoves, me , and 26 gal gas
Subtract 2 from 1 = 990
990 - 100 hitch wt = 890
890 divided by 13% = 6846 lbs for trailer
any more comments.....appreciate it
1..6600...................GVWR
2..5610...................Scaled WT plus loaded with wife, food, ice chest, drinks, tools, chairs, stoves, me , and 26 gal gas
Subtract 2 from 1 = 990
990 - 100 hitch wt = 890
890 divided by 13% = 6846 lbs for trailer
any more comments.....appreciate it
We have a winner here! You can pull my loaded Coleman 274BH with that.
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06-14-2019, 12:39 PM
#7
Grumpy Old Man
Agree with this except one thing. If going to the scales with your actual truck load, it's time to go ahead and install the weight distribution hitch (with bars in the back of the bed) rather than guessing their weight to be 100lb. 100lb is good for estimating, but at scale time it's time for real numbers.
If you have the hitch but not the trailer, then you could place all of the hitch components in the back of the bed next to tailgate, then not need to estimate the weight of the WD hitch.
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06-14-2019, 03:11 PM
#8
Concur, provided you already have the trailer and the hitch. But the purpose of this thread is to help determine which trailer to buy. You cannot install the hitch on the trailer until after you have the trailer
If you have the hitch but not the trailer, then you could place all of the hitch components in the back of the bed next to tailgate, then not need to estimate the weight of the WD hitch.
If you have the hitch but not the trailer, then you could place all of the hitch components in the back of the bed next to tailgate, then not need to estimate the weight of the WD hitch.
06-14-2019, 10:45 PM
#9
Grumpy Old Man
You will have over 900 pounds of hitch weight, so your hitch must be rated for at least 1,000 pounds max TW. You want very good built-in sway control, so as a minimum you're at the high end of the affordable hithes = almost $700 from a discount online source. That will handle about 99% of all sway-causing conditions. Here are two excellent choices in that price range:
BlueOx SwayPro 1000 costs $645 = https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Dist...x/BXW1000.html
Equal-I-Zer 4P 1000 costs $658 = https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Dist...EQ37100ET.html
Or if 99 percent is not good enough, a ProPride will handle about 99.99 percent o all sway-causing conditions, but it costs a bit over $3,000 delivered.
ProPride 3P=1000 costs $3,040 = https://www.propridehitch.com/propri...d-529498fac3b2
BlueOx SwayPro 1000 costs $645 = https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Dist...x/BXW1000.html
Equal-I-Zer 4P 1000 costs $658 = https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Dist...EQ37100ET.html
Or if 99 percent is not good enough, a ProPride will handle about 99.99 percent o all sway-causing conditions, but it costs a bit over $3,000 delivered.
ProPride 3P=1000 costs $3,040 = https://www.propridehitch.com/propri...d-529498fac3b2
Last edited by smokeywren; 06-14-2019 at 10:48 PM.
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06-15-2019, 10:33 AM
#10
That is crazy expensive for a hitch, especially if only used a couple times a year. It is also about 1/5th the cost of my trailer. A search can usually find a good deal on a hitch. I found my BO for $545 delivered, it was a clearance because it had 1500 pound bars. After I did all the math, mine was a bit over 1000 pounds on the receiver with the hitch, so I went and got it. Works GREAT!