need to tow a 6000-6500 camper
07-01-2016, 01:28 PM
#21
Grumpy Old Man
Yeah, the basic rules don't change, so my answers shouldn't change either. Lots of newbees read these forums, so I post the same basic info over and over again. No, I haven't created a master answer sheet I can copy and paste from, but that might be a good idea.
07-01-2016, 06:11 PM
#22
2012 F150 Screw 4WD 5.0L w/3.73 locker = 15,100 lbs CGWR, 9300 lbs Max towing and 1700 lbs factory MAX payload.
My previous 2012 F150 Screw 4WD 5.0L w/3.73 locker = Factory payload of 1582 lbs. 7350 lbs GVWR - 1582 lbs factory delivered payload = 5768 lbs factory delivered truck weight.
15,100 CGWR - 5768 lbs actual truck weight = 9,332 - 150 lbs industry standard driver weight = 9,182 lbs factory delivered tow rating
6500 lbs LOADED travel trailer = 845 lbs tongue weight based on dual axle travel trailer average 13% tongue weight. 845 lbs tongue X weight distribution hitch, truck distributed weight of 80% (20% on trailer axles and hitch weight included) = 676 lbs on truck axles
My family, tonneau cover, bed liner, portable 25 gallon waste tank, tool bag, other stuff in bed of truck = total of 800 lbs.
800 lbs cargo and family + 676 lbs of distributed tongue weight on truck axles = total of 1476 lbs
Truck payload of 1582 lbs - total actual payload of 1476 = 106 lbs of left
The above is based on AVERAGE weights so it can fluctuate either way. With that said, after being on rv.net for years, most weights come in UNDER what I posted while only a handful came above and often from mis-adjustment of the hitch and/or loading, BUT it does happen.
If you're worried about the weight you're towing and hauling, GO TO THE CAT SCALES.
My previous 2012 F150 Screw 4WD 5.0L w/3.73 locker = Factory payload of 1582 lbs. 7350 lbs GVWR - 1582 lbs factory delivered payload = 5768 lbs factory delivered truck weight.
15,100 CGWR - 5768 lbs actual truck weight = 9,332 - 150 lbs industry standard driver weight = 9,182 lbs factory delivered tow rating
6500 lbs LOADED travel trailer = 845 lbs tongue weight based on dual axle travel trailer average 13% tongue weight. 845 lbs tongue X weight distribution hitch, truck distributed weight of 80% (20% on trailer axles and hitch weight included) = 676 lbs on truck axles
My family, tonneau cover, bed liner, portable 25 gallon waste tank, tool bag, other stuff in bed of truck = total of 800 lbs.
800 lbs cargo and family + 676 lbs of distributed tongue weight on truck axles = total of 1476 lbs
Truck payload of 1582 lbs - total actual payload of 1476 = 106 lbs of left
The above is based on AVERAGE weights so it can fluctuate either way. With that said, after being on rv.net for years, most weights come in UNDER what I posted while only a handful came above and often from mis-adjustment of the hitch and/or loading, BUT it does happen.
If you're worried about the weight you're towing and hauling, GO TO THE CAT SCALES.
Last edited by Mike Up; 07-01-2016 at 06:33 PM.
07-01-2016, 06:37 PM
#23
Senior Member
I had a 13 Eco crew cab with 3.31 gears. Pulling. 7k lb trailer A few times a week definitely put a lot of strain on that truck. That much weight is good every now and then if you need to take a boat to the lake but not like I was doing.. I just picked up a 2016 F250 yesterday. Between rebates and dealer discount I saved $11k off msrp.
https://www.f150forum.com/f17/ex-150...7/#post4816233
https://www.f150forum.com/f17/ex-150...7/#post4816233
07-02-2016, 11:20 PM
#24
My 05 150 5.4 4X4 screw with the 3.73 pulls my 8,000# 26' TT just fine. My fathers 12 150 4x4 Eco boost screw does good also.
The diff between mine and his when towing the same TT Is that with the Eco I was never on the brakes when going down hill. But that might have just been the fact that the Eco has a six speed and the 05 5.4 only has a four speed.
The diff between mine and his when towing the same TT Is that with the Eco I was never on the brakes when going down hill. But that might have just been the fact that the Eco has a six speed and the 05 5.4 only has a four speed.
07-03-2016, 08:37 PM
#25
No mention of GAWR? My 2014 has a rear GAWR of 4050#. Something to keep in mind. To the OP, when you go looking at trucks, open the drivers door and read the tags, the white one lists the three important ones, GVWR, GAWR front, and GAWR rear. Under that sticker is the yellow lawyer tag that lists max payload. The higher the numbers for all 4, the better off you will be.
Also keep in mind who will be with you in the truck while towing, keep their weight in mind during this as they will all be sitting above those axles and adding to the overall weight. In my case, they overloaded the truck, my trailer has about 760# TW with a full water tank, but with a generator and 5 gallons of gas in the bed, and 4 other people in the cab, I was over by 300# on the GAWR, 400# over all. With an empty FWT I would still be over gross and axle as it only removes about 160# off the tongue. My trailers gross is 7600#.
Second cars work wonders in my case, not only does it free up cargo weight, I get to listen to whatever I want to listen to, and any volume I want it at.
Also keep in mind who will be with you in the truck while towing, keep their weight in mind during this as they will all be sitting above those axles and adding to the overall weight. In my case, they overloaded the truck, my trailer has about 760# TW with a full water tank, but with a generator and 5 gallons of gas in the bed, and 4 other people in the cab, I was over by 300# on the GAWR, 400# over all. With an empty FWT I would still be over gross and axle as it only removes about 160# off the tongue. My trailers gross is 7600#.
Second cars work wonders in my case, not only does it free up cargo weight, I get to listen to whatever I want to listen to, and any volume I want it at.
07-03-2016, 10:33 PM
#26
Senior Member
So is this good?
It's a F250, sry
It's a F250, sry
No mention of GAWR? My 2014 has a rear GAWR of 4050#. Something to keep in mind. To the OP, when you go looking at trucks, open the drivers door and read the tags, the white one lists the three important ones, GVWR, GAWR front, and GAWR rear. Under that sticker is the yellow lawyer tag that lists max payload. The higher the numbers for all 4, the better off you will be.
Also keep in mind who will be with you in the truck while towing, keep their weight in mind during this as they will all be sitting above those axles and adding to the overall weight. In my case, they overloaded the truck, my trailer has about 760# TW with a full water tank, but with a generator and 5 gallons of gas in the bed, and 4 other people in the cab, I was over by 300# on the GAWR, 400# over all. With an empty FWT I would still be over gross and axle as it only removes about 160# off the tongue. My trailers gross is 7600#.
Second cars work wonders in my case, not only does it free up cargo weight, I get to listen to whatever I want to listen to, and any volume I want it at.
Also keep in mind who will be with you in the truck while towing, keep their weight in mind during this as they will all be sitting above those axles and adding to the overall weight. In my case, they overloaded the truck, my trailer has about 760# TW with a full water tank, but with a generator and 5 gallons of gas in the bed, and 4 other people in the cab, I was over by 300# on the GAWR, 400# over all. With an empty FWT I would still be over gross and axle as it only removes about 160# off the tongue. My trailers gross is 7600#.
Second cars work wonders in my case, not only does it free up cargo weight, I get to listen to whatever I want to listen to, and any volume I want it at.
07-04-2016, 10:03 AM
#27
More than plenty! If the trailer you are considering is 6500 gross, you have plenty of truck to pull it with that one. You could probably pull a 10K trailer with that one and not worry about weight.