toklas

i've been reading as many posts as possible and have tried to calculate as much as i can. but I wanted you guys to just take a look and tell me if this is to much trailer.

i have 2014 XLT 4x4 Supercrew 5.0L with 3.55 gears 145"WB. sticker states #7,350 GVWR. I have the trailer brake control and standard tow package. here are my door stickers.




I am looking at a jayco jay flight slx 267BHSW
WEIGHTS
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 5615
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 645
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 7000
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 1385
Exterior Length 30' 2""

I will be using a husky centerline TS WDH

http://www.jayco.com/products/travel...t-slx/267bhsw/



let me know if i can provide any other info. Thoughts on this? is it to much for this truck?

Thanks for any help.

Norotso

Real world you have 1500# payload, subtract everything that you will require the truck to carry, people, pets, cargo etc. That trailer is going to use up anywhere from 900#-1000# of your payload loaded up and then there's also the weight of your WDS. Probably doesn't leave much room for anything else. I would start looking at fiberglass trailers with that layout.

SixShooter14

I'd say you would be probably right at the payload limit. You can help by loading as much as possible into the trailer. But in the end, you're still close but not quite overloaded.


As above, What will you have to haul in the truck?

From what I understand, if your adjusted payload is less than 900#(7000*0.13) than you're going to be overloaded.

smokeywren

What Norotso posted. You'll probably be overloaded over the actual payload capacity of your tow vehicle (TV) if you haul the normal load of an adult passenger, a few tools, and maybe a couple of rugrats or BowWow. You'll have to be constantly aware of weight hauled in the truck and trailer if you don't want to be overloaded.


My F-150 has payload capacity of 1,566, and I'm slightly overloaded with my smaller TT that has GVWR of 5,600 pounds and actual gross weight less than 5,000 pounds with 650 pounds of tongue weight when wet and loaded on the road for a long trip. Your tongue weight will be about 250 pounds more than mine, and your payload capacity is less than mine, so you'll be more overloaded than I am if your TV has the same trim and options as mine. I usually haul DW and a 40-pound Border Collie and a 12-pound Chihuahua. My shell weighs about 200 pounds, so without a shell or tonneau cover and minimum tools, then you could maybe haul 900 pounds hitch weight without being overloaded. But I doubt it.


1501 payload capacity minus 900 pounds tongue weight leaves you only 601 pounds available for the weight-distributing hitch, driver, passengers, pets, tools, and anything else you haul in the TV.


Some really nice pop-up camper trailers with AC, hot and cold running water, shower and pottie, stove, microwave, etc. are available with GVWR of less than 4,000 pounds and wet and loaded hitch weight less than 520 pounds. That's what you should be considering if you don't want to be overloaded when on the road with the wet and loaded TV and trailer and normal weight of a family and stuff in the TV.

mark waller

Agree with the other comments. What type of tires, sway bar or air bags? Either way you wont really have any payload by the time the tongue weight and family are in the truck. 900 # tongue weight sounds about right.

toklas

thanks everyone. i do plan on getting airbags or at least an add a leaf in the rear. i don't plan on loading the TV with anything much other than the family. luckily the family doesn't weight much all girls and all skinny lol. their combined weight right now is about #240 pounds if that lol, wife and 3 young ones. i'm a sprightly #200.

the wife is dead set on this TT with the slide out which i know adds weight. my guess is i will tow it around for a while and then make the argument for a f250 .

I will have to be a bit careful on how i load the TT and try and keep the TW as low as possible by loading heavier stuff in the back. I know I can't do that too much without causing more issues, but at least keep the TW down just a bit.

Barristersteve

A lot will depend on where you plan on doing your camping and how you pack the truck and trailer. Those trailers have a large pass through which, depending on how you pack it, can change your tongue weight significantly. In addition you might want to avoid travelling with your tanks full because 85 gallons of freshwater will add about 700 lbs to the trailer and another 100lbs of tongue weight. My Jayco was supposed to have a 650 lbs tongue weight which ends up being about 1050 loaded for camping.


I tow a Jayco Eagle 28BHBE with my 2010 and the tow is solid and I can maintain speed limits when climbing hills/mountains throughout NY, Maine, Pa, NH, Ontario and Quebec. My 2010 has the Max Tow package which gives me a little extra payload at 1713 lbs and I have added air bags and LT tires. I also tow with a Propride 3P hitch which ensures stability.

toklas

what am i calculating wrong here. if my trailers max weight is #7000 wouldn't my tongue weight be #700 at 10%?

Norotso

Typically tongue weight is 13%, maybe real lightly loaded with no WDS, 10% and as high as 15% heavy...

Ricktwuhk

How could you read a billion threads and not see 13% over and over?

Right on the edge with this, as tour children grow and bring the dog...