tsigwing

Any recommendations? Will be pulling with my truck in my sig with my Harley inside. Prefer a front bed that is separated.


I do have the payload and towing package.


Really wondering if there are brands to be avoided.

BRUTE448

whats the payload # on the yellow sticker?

tsigwing

1733 lbs

smokeywren

First step is to determine how heavy a "bumper-pull" toy hauler you can tow without being overloaded. With gross available payload of 1733 pounds, that's a small toy hauler.


Load the truck with everybody and everything that will be in it when towing, including passengers, pets, tools, jack(s) and jackstands, campfire wood, and anything else that might be in the truck when towing. Drive to a truck stop that has a CAT scale and fill up with gas. Weigh the wet and loaded pickup.


Subtract the weight of the wet and loaded pickup from the GVWR of the pickup. The answer is the payload capacity available for hitch weight.


Divide that payload capacity available for hitch weight by 0.13 and the answer is the max GVWR of any bumper-pull (receiver hitch) toy hauler you want to buy. Don't even think about a gooseneck or fifth wheel trailer - their hitch weight is higher than a bumper-pull travel trailer - averaging 18% instead of 13% of gross trailer weight.


If the trailer specs don't include the GVWR of the trailer, then GVWR = dry trailer weight plus cargo carrying capacity (CCC) of the trailer.


After you weigh the wet and loaded pickup and compute the max GVWR of any toy hauler you can tow without being overloaded, let us know and someone can then recommend a toy hauler that will not overload your tow vehicle. Ignore anyone that suggests you buy a trailer that could exceed your computed available payload capacity for hitch weight.

untraceable

Have you looked at the builders that custom make trailers? They are closer to a cargo trailer than a camper, but likewise, the trailers are far lighter, stronger and typically better equipped to handle loads.


InTech does amazing stuff
ATC pretty high end too


Just ordered a 8.5x18 +4' V nose R&R with windows/awning/ac/power/lights/fold out bed/finished interior
Not quite InTech level, but all Aluminum frame, Torsion axles and only @3500lbs dry as equipped.
http://rnrtrailers.com/product/alumi...er-vdc-series/

tsigwing

I have not. Any idea on pricing?

untraceable

From 5k to sky is the limit with these ala cartel custom shops.

Our R&R is about 13k as we have it
ATC's I've seen around 30k
InTech even higher. Kind of a if you have to ask basis

Elyislander

I have a 2015 Gulfstream Track & Trail 26RTH, 6000# empty weight, that is a relatively bare bones toy hauler but is nice and my 2015 3.5EB SCrew pulls it well. Based on my estimates I am at just about payload but the truck does well. Although I have not yet visited a Cat scale my experience is that the toyhauler seems to load up the truck worse with no toys loaded since the weight of toys aft of the axles would offset some of the trailer load in front of the axles.

A motorcycle may not make much of a difference but I do notice it when pulling it with my RZR.

I would probably not be comfortable pulling my trailer with a 2.7L...I think its at about the limit of my 3.5L.

LMychajluk

Setting aside limitations on hitch weight, the Max weight rating of a trailer for the 2.7L is 8100lbs with the Payload Package. You're going to be hard pressed to find a toy hauler with a GVWR of less than that, especially one with a bed up front (which the smaller ones tend no t to have).

But, there are a some out there. Came across this one (I know nothing about the brand or model) - http://www.jayco.com/products/toy-ha...uper-lite/222/

tsigwing

so far I am liking the Grey Wolf 26RR, its GVWR is 7775 lbs.